Suppressor mounts for a newb

Howdy all
I’ve been kicking around getting into suppressors for a while and Silencerco got me with their BOGO deal.
Velos paperwork was signed/submitted today, Omega 300 when it arrives in a few months.

So I have some time to research mounts.
Hosts are going to be 14.5-20” AR’s in 5.56 and 6.5 Grendel.
I’d rather something a bit shorter than the ASR mounts and I like what I see from rearden mfg, but I don’t know what’s what truthfully. I know the reardens don’t lock like the ASR do, but is that something I really need?

Anything other than rearden I should consider? Key considerations for me would be flash hider mounts that can pin and weld to a 14.5 to get 16”, and shortest adapters for the cans.

Taper only mounts are pretty well proven by now. I don’t think you need the secondary locking mechanism for any normal consumer uses.

I’d recommend you just use the direct thread base or mount system that comes with the silencer for a while before you start pinning mounts.

I have a couple that are going to have to be pinned to be used at all, hence the question.

You may not end up wanting to use it on every one of your AR’s.

I have never seen any Rearden mount in person. The design doesn’t look bad or anything, I’ve just never seen anyone use it.

One concern of combining the shortest mount and longer muzzle devices for pinning is how much room your silencer has to the first baffle. Definitely something you want to confirm will fit your silencer before you start pinning muzzle devices.

While we are here, are there ‘families’ of mounts? The comments here read like there are types that will work a few cans, or that cans can work with a few mounts?

The pistol brace to SBR is a gateway drug for me on NFA items with suppressors next on the list. The mounts were my first question.

Many current silencers don’t have a mount permanently built in. The mount to silencer thread is more or less standardized into something called HUB.

So you buy the HUB mount for the family of muzzle devices you want to use.

Check out Griffin Armament taper mount devices and Plan A adapters. They have pinnable, extra short, and titanium devices and 3 lengths of Plan A adapters. I agree with the sentiment that secondary locking features are unnecessary.

Yup, I’ve tried a variety of mounts and settled on these a few years ago. I’ll be using them with my Velos and Omega 300 that I BOGOd. Its on 4 of the 6 rifle cans in my safe, already. The other two have permanent/non-replaceable mounts.

Another cool thing about them is they’re readily available in all kinds of thread patterns, so you can use it with some AKs, or a .338 Lapua.

Light, short, inexpensive, available, doesn’t carbon lock, holds the can on well, every type of muzzle jewlery you could want, doesn’t affect accuracy, etc.

Here is a list of the top 10 QD systems that have 1.375-24 HUB compatible adapters:

Dead Air - XENO
Dead Air - Keymo
Q LLC - Quickie / Plan-B
Griffin Armament - Dual-LOK
Griffin Armament - Taper Mount
YHM - SRX
YHM - Phantom QD
Rugged - Dual Taper Lock
SiCO - ASR
AAC - 51T Ratchet

Both Dead Air systems and the Q system have aftermarket / other companies making compatible devices.

Thanks, these look about perfect.
I was having trouble finding a SiCo Charlie thread adapter but it looks like Griffin has that and everything else covered.

In case you, or anyone else needs one, ECCO makes a charlie-to-omega adapter, to allow omega/HUB mounts to screw into a charlie/Saker supressor

Pertaining to the Rearden mounts. I just bought their Atlas mount and three MDs for a Otter Creek Labs Polonium can. I only have a few hundred rounds through the setup on my 14.5 but really like it a lot. The first time I shot it this past weekend I didn’t lube the MD because honestly I was more worried about the can backing off than I was it locking up. I put it on hand tight and bottomed it out against the collar on the MD. Put a wrench on to cinch it down a bit more but there was no play left. Checked it intermittently during the course of 200 rounds and it never walked. Had to use a wrench to give it a bit of a nudge to break it loose when done but nothing crazy. I am using the standard Atlas and it adds very little length to the setup compared to the direct thread. I’m a big fan so far. The can is still in jail so my testing is limited to the range at the shop so no hard use just yet. This weekend I’ll be trying it out on the 10.5 and 11.5.

I’ve got a pinned 51T on a Noveske, you’re saying an adapter will let me use other cans on it? AAC died and recently came back but product is nowhere.

Yes, this is true.

https://advanced-armament.com/shop/accessories/adapters/51t-s-t-a-m-p-mount/

However, depending on the situation, it may be better to swap the muzzle device and do a HUB mount conversion on the suppressor.
https://www.eccomachine.net/product/bravo-conversion-service/

I switched to the Rearden/Liberty Precision Machine mounts with the Rearden Atlas adapter and have no plans of every going back to anything else. They are a take on the Q Plan B taper lock, which is a proven design and locks on very well. They’re shorter and lighter than nearly all other QD systems, and they just work. Rearden does make an extended Atlas adapter for longer muzzle devices if needed for some of the pinned devices.

Thank you, I’ve been living under a rock as I would never have guessed an industry standard would actually come to the world of suppressors. The hub conversion seems a reasonably priced future proof upgrade to my rifle suppressor 7.62TI (Direct Thread) and all go forward suppressor purchases. My .22 & .45 cans are direct thread as I could never settle on which companies proprietary mounts to pick.

Read up on the EM site and they go into more detail and history of the HUB standard.

Thanks again!