The net increase in the number of employed working-age adults in North Carolina has gone entirely to legal and illegal immigrants since 2000, according to an analysis of government data conducted by the Center for Immigration Studies.
According to the limited immigration group, while the “native” working age (16-65 years old) North Carolina population has increased by 61 percent since 2000, the share of “natives” in that state’s work force has declined.
“The total number of working-age (16 to 65) immigrants (legal and illegal) holding a job in North Carolina increased by 313,000 from the first quarter of 2000 to the first quarter of 2014, while the number of working-age natives with a job declined by 32,000 over the same time,” the report reads, explaining that in the past 14 years has seen the labor-force participation of natives in North Carolina in decline.
It can not be made any plainer for you, this should be an absolute scandal…
NC’ers shouldn’t have been so lazy and unambitious to go to college and get a STEM degree or learn a labor skill and they wouldn’t have had all those jobs stolen from them by immigrants. They must have all been too busy striking for $15 MW.
Ive said it here many times but immigrants aren’t just taking field jobs. I bet these same “protestors” want amnesty and other dumb shit. Immigration is being used as a wage suppression tool by both the DNC and RNC.
Only part of the equation. Much of the industry we had fizzled up (agriculture/tobacco) or packed up and left (textiles/furniture-making). People here are not going to pick cucumbers/make pickles for $4 an hour.
The area in which I live there are three large, major universities, which employ a large number of immigrants in the academic/research area. Not all the immigrants are picking tobacco or painting houses.
I agree. Have you been through the IT dept of any major company in the past 10-15 years ? Most of the people working there will have been “imported” from India and other places where colleges are cheap and the grads will work for much less than an American IT worker would want.
Anyone who doesn’t think there is a serious problem with wage suppression across the board in the country needs to open their eyes.
But hey, those companies don’t have any obligation to share their immense profits with their workers. People can always look for a new job or go back to school if they aren’t happy… right ?
Those jobs would have been taken by the legal immigrants here on H1B visas in an effort to drive down the wages of engineers.
That is why ****erberg and all his ilk are pushing for more H1B visas to “spur innovation”. Yeah, right. You mean get you more profit because you can employ 3 Indian/Chinese engineers for the price of one American one because they are willing to work 12 hrs/day for less pay and live 4 people in a 2 bedroom apartment and send all their money back to their families in their home country and then when their Visa expires, go back home and startup a knock off company.
But hey.
They will do the work that Americans won’t do…for the pay being offered.
I just don’t understand why the American public doesn’t see this. The more people in the country, the more competition for jobs, the lower EVERYONE’S wages will be and the richer the politicians and business owners.:mad:
I think some are in denial, some are too shortsighted to realize the screwgie that is coming for thier job soon, and some just dont give a rusty poop cause they are on the .gov dole.
This is exactly right, but not for the reason you espouse, based on my own experience. When I left corporate life to start my own business, I spent 60 to 80 hours per week working directly with or for my clients not counting the hours involved in the weekly travel of 5 to 6 days per week. And the people that worked with me did the same.
I can only relate to my own experience, but in that experience I found few US-born applicants willing to travel that much and work that hard and long, and also be sufficiently educated in basic reading, writing and math, and have decent communication skills necessary for the job. When I found one, they got paid very, very well.
Call me jaded, but my own experience taught me that the typical US-born applicant for my business was poorly educated, lacked motivation, and was spoiled rotten, and expected high pay for not a lot of quality work.
And for the record, I did not hire any illegals or H1B’s. But I had to search long and hard for the people I did hire. Luckily, I did not require that large of a staff.
I know some of you won’t like reading this, but this was my experience and I am sticking to it! Maybe things have change in the 10 years since I retired, but I doubt it.
In our yacht construction industry, Mexicans are taking jobs as painters, fiberglass laminators, and even carpenters. They are willing to work for less, since they are mostly illegal immigrants and live 12 to a single wide trailer. The majority of them have children as soon as they get here. The Latin population in NC has increased about 150% in the past two decades. Some counties in the eastern part of the state have seen nearly a 300% increase.
This doesn’t mean the companies are making more money. The weak economy has materials costs jumping wildly while demand for boats is dropping. About 60% of custom boat builders in NC went out of business in the last 7 years. Using cheaper labor is the only way most companies can keep the doors open.
can you define “very, very well” ? As much as you might not agree with it, many people dont want to devote thier lives to thier employer unless the pay is very good.
i have almost a sixty hour work week counting commute and i can tell you its not worth what i’m getting paid. life is far too short and precious to waste it making someone else rich. IMO
I can fully understand and appreciate that. As to your question, 20 years ago when I started the business it would have been into 6 figures with additional bonus opportunity.
As much as you might not agree with it, many people dont want to devote thier lives to thier employer unless the pay is very good.
I fully agree with that. I knew when I started the company that I had sold my soul to the business. But I fould most applicants wanted the pay but not the work.
My take away here is NC companies are employing Many immigrants. Is that because white people won’t do the work? Is it because the companies employing the immigrants are racist and don’t like whites? I find it very hard to believe the immigrants are better candidates for the jobs, but who knows.
Here is what I do know, they are being employed, their employer is the bad guy in my eyes.
I own a business, I won’t take an application from any one who can not speak clear fluent english. It is a pretty simple and straight forward skill set to require. Interestingly enough it has not only made it so I have not been had a single hispanic meet my requirement, it has also produced a few american born blacks and one white from not meeting my simple need in an employee.
Now there is no discrimination here. I require a skill set in my employes, that shill set english language proficiency. There is not a job in our country where that can not be rightly required of a worker, if for nothing else than being able to communicate to each other and management. There for every employer in this country should be able to not hire these people. If they do hire them, they are part of the problem.
I am not part of the problem.
Additionally any time I hire a service to do work on my house or around it, I ask one simple and straight forward question: Do all of your employees speak english as a first language? If not, they are not getting the job.
Another thing to consider is do you patronize establishments that employ illegal immigrants? Because if you do, you are paying their wage.
If we didn’t have jobs for illegals here there would be no reason for them to want to be here.
Drives me nuts when people talk about how Americans won’t pick that or paint this or do some job so we need these illegal immigrants- and then they want to make them citizens. Uhm, I thought Americans won’t do those jobs? Make them Americans and they’ll have access to all the programs (or at least more programs) and won’t do these crappy jobs for these wages. Yes, Americans won’t do these jobs for these wages, which is why if Americans did them they would get paid more. Of course, the price of food would go up- but it is being illegally subsidized right now.
That leads to the second issue. Illegal immigrants reduce lower-class incomes. I know there are all kinds of studies that say it isn’t true, but I’ll b!tch slap any economist that says that an overs supply of something doesn’t depress its price. But the real issue is this new ruckus over ‘income inequality’. The left has given up saying that Capitalism doesn’t work and instead has taken the tack that the proceeds aren’t ‘fairly’ distributed. Distributed to whom? We keep importing a small third world country every decade. Of course there are poor people- we keep adding more of them, duh. Restrict the addition of poor people to the unskilled labor pool and their wages will eventually rise.
