Steyr ceased AUG A3 production

According to this website (scroll down a little for announcement)
http://www.specialistgunshop.com/steyr.htm

…and here
http://www.pjs-steyraug.com/USAUG.html

The steyr website doesn’t say anything about this. I got the info from a 6 page thread on TOS bullpup sub forum.

USAAUG forum has info stating Steyr will cease production until the economy improves. There’s also talk of MSAR getting out of the AUG business or going bankrupt because they can’t compete with the sub $1,000 MSAR AUG’s the distributors are dumping at a loss.

http://www.usaaug.com/showthread.php?t=1376

Something interesting shit.

Maybe to many shooters have read here on M4C and have experienced enlightenment . . .

DD and BCM can’t make AR’s fast enough. Aresenal AK’s sell out quicky too.

Honestly can’t say I’m surprised.

I wonder how much longer FN will offer the FS 2000. The SCAR outsells it.

I’ve no insider knowledge, but if it (a) involves an AUG, and (b) Pete says it (your second link), I would take it as gospel.

AC

If they are in fact discontinuing the AUG A3, I predict that it will become sort of a collectors item…They only made about 2000 or so, and I dont know of any other way to get a genuine Steyr AUG unless you go the preban route.

Maybe Im wrong, but I see these things going up up up in value over time

Its a shame really, regardless if you are a fan of bullpup rifles…seeing all these “politically incorrect” rilfes made me think of better days. Can’t say I blame Steyr completely, economy is bad…so no one is willing to put down $1800.00 for one (I want to, but I have other projects to fund ahead of it). Everyone is feeling the pinch and I hope no one else goes under. Heck, look at all the AR’s out there. I just bought a new Novekse upper and they are still throwing in a free stripped lower with purchase…remember in the early Obama days how hard it was to even find ANY parts? Dont worry, Steyr will be back (I am hoping).

There will be no shortage of AUG’s out there for awhile. There are plenty collecting dust on dealers shelves, and I don’t see this announcement changing this in the short term

If I were buying an AUG, it would only be a Steyr, no knock offs

As per Bob Ailes at FN, they have sold about 35,000 FS2000’s since the weapons offering. Serial numbers are into the 55,000 range now, but that may be because of some funky numbering scheme.

Obviously the SCAR has been out for a shorter time, but I think the figure I heard was 2500-3000 sold in the US so far. Its no surprise that the FN Bullpup doesnt have a huge following, but it sounds like they still sell in decent quantities.

What type of AUG are the Aussies using in Afghanistan?

According to Eric Wood, Steyr’s National Sales Manager it is just a temporary halt in production until the market gets better.

I received this from him the other day

[i]"BR870,
I understand your concern about the A3, however I will let you know that we have plenty of spare parts available here in the U.S… We are only stopping the production of our next run of complete rifles for a while unitil the economy turns around a bit and the market becomes a little more stable. If you need anything for your A3 it will be available and you can contact me directly if you have any other questions.

Thanks

Eric Wood "[/i]

So hopefully we will see the back in a few years once the economy isn’t so down… :sad:

ETA: This was also posted on their facebook page “We are holding off on our next production run of complete AUG A3 rifles. Parts and service will be unaffected.”

I see many posts discussing the potential future value of specific guns once their availability is decreased. Does anyone have or ever read any objective data evaluating the inflation adjusted return on firearm investments?

It’s an AUG built by Lithgow and called the F88.

From what I understand, they’re not as well thought of as the original Austrian Steyr production.

Aussie SF types typically use Colt Canada M4’s.

It’s a roller coaster and you take your chances.

Original Steyr AUG’s that were imported prior the the 1989 import ban sold for $700-$1000 back in the 80’s, and that was not cheap.

They’re currently bringing around $3K or more depending on condition, variant, accessories, etc.

Based on your data for this particular gun that amounts to a 13% gross return/year and 10% inflation adjusted return/year, which is quite good. However the conditions going forward are different than in the past (other bullpups available, Steyr halting rather than stopping production, and large variety of other available rifles with no ban looming ) therefore I agree that the future value of a firearm is a roller coaster, perhaps similar to buying commodities and/or art. It seems reasonable to buy what you like, hope but not expect than they increase in value, and focus your investment capital in other areas such as stocks and bonds.

Based on your data for this particular gun that amounts to a 13% gross return/year and 10% inflation adjusted return/year, which is quite good. However the conditions going forward are different than in the past (other bullpups available, Steyr halting rather than stopping production, and large variety of other available rifles with no ban looming ) therefore I agree that the future value of a firearm is a roller coaster, perhaps similar to buying commodities and/or art. It seems reasonable to buy what you like, hope but not expect than they increase in value, and focus your investment capital in other areas such as stocks and bonds.
Good post

On the cover of the Harvard Business Review this month they have a large group of Aussie soldiers with AUGs in a bit of a cluster. Interesting photo and lots of AUGs.:confused:

Thanks Templar:D When I saw the cover photo I was wondering if they were Commonwealth built or bought from Styer or US… thought it would be interesting if there were inch patter AUGs :slight_smile:

When Steyr was asked “Will production resume at some point in the future?” they replied “Yes it will”

Its on the Steyr Arms facebook page for those who are interested

So where does this put the MSAR?

Do the Aussie Augs take a STANAG mag or a Steyr mag?

Steyr.