State Department lifts ban on exports of night-vision goggles

What do you guys think about this? http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/24/state-lifts-ban-on-exports-of-night-vision-goggles/ I doesn’t sound good to me but someone here knows more about the effect of it than I do.

Well now we know what the Chicom’s wanted in order for them to keep buying our debt.

I’m sure the back cause has something to with money not security.

I doubt that formalities like “export regulations” like ITAR matter a whole lot. These items can be and are sold to anyone willing to pay, within the U.S., and it’s legal. Even on Ebay. Foreign countries, including and especially China, got their hands on plenty of them long, long ago and have certainly reverse engineered them at this point.

Current technology with thermal imaging is superior to simple light amplification. Soon Gen 3 and and even Gen 4 NVGs will be obselete.

I dont see it mattering a whole lot. I dont imagine someone who really wanted the gear getting frustrated over our export laws.

Still can’t send ACOGs or PMAGS to your own APO though, right?:rolleyes:

They both have their places.

The cost however is a huge difference as well, $25k compared to $3k is a big number :stuck_out_tongue:

Not when they develop NV with thermal and light amplification merged into one image.

Not legally. I never lie on the shipping paperwork. I used to put a bunch of Pmags in a box and throw a few paperback books in with it. On the form, I would simply write “Books and Magazines” and never had any issues lol.

In regards to NVGs, does that mean we can bring them back into the country legally now?

I still can’t get updates to my spyware software because our ISP shows up as being in Iraq, and we are on a US mil FOB. It is the only ISP available and they are contracted through the military. Some bases do have ITAR friendly ISPs such as Sniper Hill. At least we don’t have to worry about having our websites filtered though…

Same with Jackle Wireless :cool::smiley:

Ah, Camp Victory eh? At least Jackal is fast. Oh, and Itunes won’t let me buy and download songs, yet I can get their podcasts. Don’t think it is an ITARS issue, but rather an APPLE issue.

I used to get Savage and Limbaugh podcasts no problem, and I-Tunes as well. I left VBC in December for good after 3 years.

Amazon is weird about what they will send you as well. I ordered an I-pod case and was told it was restricted. I also tried to order a fishing pole and some tackle in the spring of 2007, and was told by a certain vendor it was restricted as well :rolleyes:

Iraq Ninja writes:

"I used to put a bunch of Pmags in a box and throw a few paperback books in with it. On the form, I would simply write “Books and Magazines” and never had any issues lol. "

OUTSTANDING !

LMAO

These a-holes must be removed from the govt…They are slicing and dicing their way to helping, aiding and abetting, the enemy. THIS IS TREASON. I can just see the headlines from Afghanistan," Coalition soildiers attacked and killed in a surprise night attack’"…I can just see it now !!!

BRAVO1

I thought everyone knew that. Stick a catalog in (Dillon Blue Press works well) and put “reading material and magazines”. Declaring full value of course.

Like I said, they both have their places. I am not an expert on this but have used both sorts of devices. Merged I have not tried yet but I suspect that there are times you want one or the other.

Plus, that newer technology does not diminish the effectiveness of NVG alone to our enemies.

One funny things is that most of the Gen2+ stuff uses Russian tubes which are imported anyway. I doubt that Haji has any difficulties as it is getting Gen2+ stuff now.

They can buy away from the Russians/ChiComs and CIS…

Genius. :cool:

But I’m sure that wouldn’t fly if they found out.