Trying to make our duty/combat loads just a touch more comfortable and practical may seem to be an elusive undertaking. However, I’m attempting to try several systems as nothing out there is perfect for “all” missions so a compromise is in order.
I’m interested in a load bearing vest, and understand that everyone is different but would like someone to weigh in on some examples I have in mind if you would.
TAG’s MOLLE Vest
Eagles MOLLE Vest
Spec Ops over armor vest
Also what I’m looking for is a certain degree of adjustability so if not wearing armor it does not fit like a sack of potatoes.
Look forward to reading some comments and insight, thanks in advance…
Thanks for your reply, this will be military in general in a training environment specifically. Mission status is a mixed bag from static security to blackhawk ops (artillery sling loads) to convoys so you can see what I must consider when evaluating gear. At present I am looking for myself alone and have interest in the LBV’s listed to carry a basic load ie… ammo pouches, and assorted gear. Again, I appreciate your input.
Thanks again and one of your points address’s a valid concern as far as the LBV’s shifting around alot, ditto with the front opening issue which can be a true pain in the rear.
Something else of course to think about but thats the point of seeking advice and the luxury of tapping into experience…
Jack, As stated, you most likely already have the soft armor on. The plate carrier may be your best bet for those times that you need the extra protection of the plates and gear. When I was door kicking, I always wore the duty vest and at the time we had the Point Blank series, (dating myself) remember the ones with the velcro and snaps? I wore that on top with the plates. The reason I did that was that many times I had to strip that entry vest to hit an attic or whatever else was required, so I still had IIIA, plus insert(s). I always had my belt set up with what’s now called first line, was called sub fighting gear then (pick that up from a now retired FBI trooper)
I could be wrong, but I’m am currently in the box, and see alot, I mean a lot of different units and troops, and I think you will find that the vast majority of units you will be required to wear the issue armor. Ultimately it will depend on your chain of command. You have to look at the fact in their eyes this is what the Army gives you to wear to protect you, and this is what you will wear. If you are in the Air Force or the Marines, they may give you a little latitude. I am unfamiliar with their types of armor for the most part. We deployed a few months ago and were issued the Point Blank Interceptor Armor. Now the RFI, comes with all types of MOLLE attachments and another overvest. I assume most chains are going to be against wearing your own gear, unless they are add on attachments or pouches. If you wear the interceptor armor, you would be adding a lot more bulk if you were another vest over it. The heat will certainly be a consideration in the summer months as well. If you are forced to wear the Interceptor armor, arrange the vest in the best possible way, and buy your own pouches if you have to, to get the best set up.
My thanks to everyone and all for your input I enjoy the discussion. Again, equipment needs and SOP along with individual preference can vary as wide as the eye can see. In addition, I understand the dynamic of what we “want” to use as opposed to what we are given and “have” to use in the field by our respective commands.
Personally, Ive been around the block a few times and have some lattitude in the choices avialable, have a good idea of what works for me without closing the brain receptors off to new ideas out there.
Everyones input is appreciated and have left me with some things to think about which is why I posted.
I am not a fan of the Interceptor, and not really all that big on the CIRAS either. There are better solutions, but since that is not your question, no need to waste time on it.
I prefer to have my pouches directly attached to my armor. Several reasons why-
No gear-shift
Lower profile
Faster jock-ups
Faster doffing
Simplicity
Less heat (negligable effect though)
The only reason I would go with a plate carrier over armor is if my armor did not accomodate my plates, or if I was in a role that precluded my use of overt armor, with a rig setup as a contingency plan.
Be sure that your plates are stand-alone if you intend on only wearing a plate carrier at times.
