would there be any advantage to the extreme longer model versus the shorter model in terms of control or recoil reduction? they seem like a great brake for the price, stout, melonited, a design that seems proven, and thoughts
What rifle are you putting it on? What is the barrel length?
The extreme model is for pinning a 14.5" barrel to an OAL of 16"+. That is why there is a hole for the blind pin. If you are running a 16" barrel already, or putting it on an SBR, there is no benefit to go with the longer and heavier Extreme.
Have you considered a Battlecomp 1.0? Lots more fans of them here than anything made by ST. If you are gonna buy something from ST, make sure you get it before the next election. A “rise in materials” may happen the moment Obama is reelected and costs may go up 60% again.
I havd a midlength 16, my question was asking benifits of this type of break, of course it would weigh a few grams more, and they way you speak, it seems your condident of obamas relection. I would have more hope, maybe somone else could answer with a more technical response
I can’t even understand what you just said. Benefits of what brake? The Dynacomp vs. Others or the Short Dynacomp vs. Extreme Dynacomp? Be more specific.
If you have a 16" Midlength, you should get the short model. There is no benefit to the longer model. As I said, the Extreme model is for pinning a 14.5" to 16" OAL. That is about as technical as it can get. The brake will provide decent muzzle climb reduction with an increase in blast and concussion.
Obama’s reelection is not assured, but Spike’s raising their prices if it happens sure is.
If they are making 2 different baffle sizes for different barrel lengths of the same caliber and not marketing them individually, they are doing it wrong.
The only thing the larger one will provide you on a 16" gun is more weight.
They market the Extreme model to the 14.5" Pinned market and the Short model to the 16" or NFA crowd.
Just like Battlecomp
hey man i came off as rude sorry, just came here from Arfcom trying to get better discussions. After reading some posts here and seeing the layout, M4 seems more technical, and in turn is probably using better equipment. I figured the Battle comp was a favorite, and the dynacomp is obviously a copied version to an extent. I have a tromix break now and its loud, im just trying to find something new and functional. thanks for the responses
The only reason you’d want the longer version is if you are going from 14.5’’ to 16’’ in order to make it legal. Performance will be the same. Since you have a 16’’ barrel, get the standard version. Or, better yet, try out a Battlecomp. I have one on my race gun. It’s an outstanding product. There is a mild concussion, but it’s not overpowering, even indoors (assuming you’re using proper hearing protection). No experience with the Spikes. You won’t find much love for that brand here.
Spikes won’t be the only ones raising prices…
Yeah the short Dynacomp is the one you want between the two for the reasons already mentioned. Having used the Battlecomp, Dynacomp, and Griffin SD I can’t really say I have noticed any difference. I bought a BC when they first fbut hit the market but wouldn’t hesitate to get one of the others in the future.
Spikes makes great stuff for sure and stands behind their products with lifetime warranties. I prefer the standard A2 flash hider but I would definitely look at the Spikes product if I was in the market for a comp.
My understanding is that Spike’s Dynacomp is made from 303 stainless steel, a very ordinary alloy that can’t be hardened and isn’t especially strong. The Battlecomp (all versions), and the similar Griffin M4-SD, are both made from 17-4 PH stainless steel, one of the higher end, stronger, harder and wear-resistant stainless alloys, and the KAC Triple Tap that started the recent craze is made out of far more expensive still, stronger super-duper Inconel. I’m not an engineer, and I’m hoping one of the resident experts might chime in, but I’m wondering if the Spike’s product will show erosion much sooner than the others.
What steel are the standard A2’s made from? I have never seen one worn out.
No idea what an A2 is made out of, but I would guess a lot of flash hiders are made out of 4140 or 4150. But I think muzzle brakes of any flavor are subject to far more erosion than most flash hider designs. It also appears that plain 4140 is a considerably stronger and harder metal (even in the relatively low tempers) than 303 stainless, but I don’t know how that translates into resistance to wear/erosion from hot gases. I welcome the experts to comment.
That alone tells me who Spike’s target market is, and what kind of use they build their products for.
My guess is they use 303 because it is one of the best stainless steels available for machining. Spikes has significantly more machine work involved.
It’s half the price of the Battlecomp and has a lifetime warranty. Battlecomps website is quite clear in that they offer no warranty of any kind on their product.
Since anyone installing any type of comp will likely never find themselves engaged in protracted firefights Im sure both products will last as long as the rifles.
to the OP i say get the longer version of the dynacomp, heres a pic of my 16" barrel with the fullsize comp. honestly you will not tell any difference in the extra length. so far this exact comp pictured has about 1500-2000rds through it and its doing great. it works effectively great for managing recoil but it does not in any way tame flash(and it does not claim to reduce/prevent flash) so prepare to be blinded when shooting indoors or at night. the battlecomp does a great job of managing recoil AND flash. im very happy with the ST product and have no doubts or regrets. if you have any questions please ask.
I can’t wait :rolleyes: even though we control the House and nothing will get passed.