I was in a discussion about this and very surprised to hear the number of guys that advocated fleeing their home should the unlikely but highest-stakes event occur of a mob attacking their home.
I advocate fleeing anywhere if possible except ones own home. Can you save your home and lives short term? Of course you can. Might they come back later to finish the job when your gone or in jail should you be arrested? Sure.
But flee your home and let it be ransacked and burned while the insurance company may or may not pay up?
F-that! I think it’s a hill worth dying / killing on. Family included.
Your average “shooter” has little more training than the 4 hour “state required” CCW class which basically tells them why they should never shoot anyone. Then you see the trite comments like “every bullet has a lawyer attached”. Couple that with the fact that the average gunowner’s last taste of “violence” was a “yo Momma’s fat!” push fight in 4th grade and it creates a nasty mix of hesitation and reluctance even though half of them carry a gun daily.
I have seen this time and time again in FOF training.
What you speak of doesn’t surprise me, SAD but not surprising…
I was playing the hypothetical in the question that was asked. Judging by your location, if they are at my house yours was burned a while ago. So internet not so tough guy… Where would you make your stand or would you just keep on running after they burned all you and your family’s shit. Homeless, broke and in a van by the river is not how I would want to live. We all make our own choices and if you don’t think it can happen to you… Ask a BUNCH of folks in the middle east and eastern Europe that thought the same thing.
IF I hafta bug out (and where I am, I might have to), it will still be done on MY terms - NOT the mob’s.
But I’m also prepared to play “Alamo,” if need be. Yes, I KNOW John Wayne dies at the end. But if I can expend MOST of my ammo in a judicious effort first, than I’ll have saved some poor farmer over in OH from having to face some of these goblins. And with fewer to face, he’ll save some farmer over in IL the same trouble. And so on down the line.
I live life with a clear conscience and a light heart. I’ll damn sure live free or die in my own home. Death is not the worst of evils.
Um, I’m a single father with two kids. If a mob comes up my street and starts rando burning/looting my neighborhood, I’m 100% leaving. And hopefully without firing a shot.
My place is defensible up to a point, but it can also be overrun. And it’s up to me to know the difference.
I don’t think it’s wise to tell anyone anything. Honestly, im not sure what id do, it’s all situation dependent but my end goal is always going to be the same, stay alive.
Your home is just “stuff”? So, is your country just the place your house happens to be that just has your “stuff” in it?
If one isn’t going to kill and possibly die to defend their home or country why all the semi-auto guns and gear other than just for fun?
If the plan is to run away every time you’re threatened with grievous bodliy harm all of you guys should only own a revolver or two.
Yes, I realize this is highly unlikely, but it’s not unwise to have a plan.
What if it’s not a mob? How about five intruders? Two? Is leaving based on whether you think you can tactically win? Or just avoiding killing at all costs?
It’s just a hypothetical, we aren’t discussing what alarm you have on your house, how many dogs, where you keep your guns, or any specific strategy. Only if you would defend your house at all. (I’m asking “at all”, now)