Some People Should Never Be Allowed Near An AR-15

strangest thing i and many other AR-15 shooters saw at our range yesterday, this guy shooting a flat top AR without any sights, one of our more diplomatic range masters went and talked to him, here is how it went,

RM: where is your sights?

Dummy: what sights ? this is the way i took it out of the box!!

RM: that model rifle requires iron sights or a scope.

Dummy: what do you mean “iron sights” ?

RM, after showing him iron sights: they look like this.

Dummy: well there weren’t any in the box, so i guess i don’t need them.

RM: have you hit the target yet ?

Dummy: no, i only fired 4 shots

several shooters and i just walked away shaking our heads and slapping our brow after that exchange, the RM asked him to put the “gun” on safe, remove the mag and eject the round in the chamber…, which actually the RM did it for him due to lack of knowledge and “sweeping” the line, then accompany him to a safe area, we later found out that his neighbor showed him how to load the mags how to insert them into the rifle, never told him how to use the safety…, plus he lied about reading the range rules, thanks to an alert RM this was an imminent disaster waiting to happen. all turned out well and the Dummy has agreed to being taught proper gun handling, safety etc. by this very competent retired Marine range master.

He also shouldn’t be allowed near any other guns for that matter. Not real keen on him operating vehicles either.

The range closest to me gets a lot of foreign tourists who have never held a gun in their life. I keep the eyes in the back of my head open.

Wow… I had thought I had seen some pretty dumb s#@t on the range. As I started reading I thought it would be one of thoes guys who just picked up the rifle the hour before (box, manual and packaging still in the car) and through sheer (and false) bravado absolutely must shoot the rifle before he gets it home, even if the scope is in the mail. That I have seen, a remington 700 with mount, rings and no scope, just lining up the rings and centering the target…

Guns attract retards.

We have a group of exceptionally special shooters in AZ. It’s quite embarrassing.

There was a pic posted of an AZ shoot where one of the morons was blasting away on an AR with no sights, just like the idiot above. But this moron knew the difference. We call them dirt shooters or booger eaters, and there’s a lot of them in AZ. They just go out and blast ammo into the side of a hill.

There are MANY people that should NEVER be allowed to own a firearm. We see them at shooting schools, at our shop and of course…ONLINE!

C4

Unless you have violent felonies in your record, mental defects, or any other legal matters not inclusive to this small list that prevents you from owning firearms, I could care less if someone wants to go blow rounds into a mountain or run a gun without iron sights, safely.

Who cares. :o

I guess you missed the part where he didn’t know how to work the safety.

I did, but my reply was directed mostly to markm.

We all bitch about guns and how only “certain” people shouldn’t have them…which has its own discussion all together.

Just literally think of the thousands of people we pass on a small 2 laned road everyday driving that we blindly trust not to slam into our cars going 60mph…

There are idiots out there…that is and will be a constant in our universe, no doubt.

Just remove yourself from that situation if you dont like it…

Fair enough. After being shot in an ND, I’m a little tetchy :smiley:

No worries, I can understand.

I would love to be able to go to any public range and walk to the line and not worry about getting shot, unfortunately, thats just not reality right now.

For those of who are serious, and dont want to get shot on a range by someone who just wants to make the gun go boom, its time to find private land.

Is this ideal? No. Costly? Yes. Further away? Probably…

Worth it? Definitely.

That’s why as much as I hate the range nazis, I do understand that they have to run a range at the level of the lowest common denominator. And that is the type of shooter that the OP is writing about.

I just simply don’t shoot at public ranges.

Absolute truth…

"The AR platform is the cats meow cool factor for most people that have a boring life. It attracts some of everyone, and the 8 to 5 guys need the evil black rifle in their otherwise basic life. "

I saved that quote years ago. I can’t remember where I even saw it, but I copied it to a .txt file. Every time I see a thread like this, I think of it.

In any hobby you are going to find people of lower intelligence…

Cars, Bikes, Flying, Fishing, Skydiving, Sewing, Knitting, whatever. You cannot escape it.

It is just in our hobby, the risk of getting killed by another its higher.

Derek,

I bet there are more motorcycle related deaths from those bozo’s attempting to jump over trucks and double wheelies while doing handstands and backflips. :smiley:

IN all fairness I have fired a AR without sites on in. One if the rifles I picked up did not come with a carry handle or BUIS. Optics were ordered but had not arrived. I wanted to make sure it functioned before I did anything to the rifle so I went out and put a 20 Round magazine though the gun.

Now that being said. This is not the case of what happened here, and the guy the OP is talking about is a complete moron.

Several of the indoor ranges here in Vegas tout “Come shoot a real machine gun!” in their advertisements. Consequently we get bus loads of foreigners, Kalifornians and complete morons who violate just about every firearm safety rule and in general act like complete retards the second they get near a weapon.
Personally I prefer to go out to the desert and the canyons around here as it’s much more peaceful without worrying about which dipshit is gonna light you up with a Tommy Gun, MP-5, etc.

Should probably add females to the list of things/people that he should not be around.

I feel sorry for the guy. He’d like to get into shooting and he wasn’t lucky enough to have friends or family to teach him. Hopefully he’ll take some firearms safety classes and stick with it. I wouldn’t doubt that after he becomes proficient (and hopefully not before) he would go out of his way to help new shooters.

Is your Magical MagpulD tour bus stopping in Pueblo this weekend?