Congratulations to the President and our Congress for selling out the American people once again. If you thought the Patriot Act was bad, this is even worse.
National Defense Authorization Bill; Here is a little info from an Editorial by the New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/opinion/politics-over-principle.html?_r=1
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Awesome!
9/11 has been the best thing to happen for our gov. Long train of abuses wrought out under the guise of “terrorism”, and you’re a soft terrorist lover if you oppose it! :rolleyes:
I was in the check cashing place the other day, and they had a little add in the window about signing up for their pre loaded debit card program. It said something about in order to combat terrorism the government now requires banks to share information about who is signing up for accounts, and gave a laundry list of information they need on you.
People wanted change, IG. They got exactly that. Though not necessarily for the better.
Yesterday, December 15, was Bill of Rights Day. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
The truly sad thing is this is what OBL and AQ and all the rest of them want. They obviously never thought they could physically destroy America, THIS is the kind of shit they are after. Compare this country today to 9/10, it’s just awful.
And it’s a goddamn shame for the men and women who have given all they could.
If anybody wants to place this blame on Obama, then take a step back and look at Bush just as hard. The red R’s voted for this just the same as the Blue D’s. Maybe even go further back to Lincoln’s suspension of Habeus Corpus, the internment of the Japanse, the initial NDAA. The democratic republic of these United States died long ago. These bills are nothing more than huckleberries in the coffin.
Read the bill, look at the language. People say it doesnt apply to US citizens, but read the legalese, it says there is no requirement to detain US citizens, it does not say that detaining US citizens is not allowed. Since there are no definers of what is and what isnt supporting terrorism, anyone can be snatched up under this bill. If you dont support the current administration then you are terrorist, I know that seems extreme, but thats what this bill allows.
As our esteemed Senator Graham said in support of this bill, “It is not unfair to make an American citizen account for the fact that they decided to help Al Qaeda to kill us all and hold them as long as it takes to find intelligence about what may be coming next,” says Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.) in support of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). “And when they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them, ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer.’”
Shut up, you dont get a lawyer. Gents, there will be no revolution. The American people are asleep. There were some Jews in the 1930’s that screamed at the top of their lungs about what was about to happen, but the sheeple figured that nothing like that could happen to them. Well, it did.
Go on any other forum and read the discussions about this. Most people say that if this scares you, then you are paranoid. They say if you have nothing to hide, why worry? These are gun people we are talking about here. In my lifetime, Ive seen the 14th, the 2nd, the 4th, and 1st ammendment crushed, and now the whole bill of rights is about to go away too, what a crazy 24 years that was.
If you run outside with your rifle and no one else is out there, go back inside, the revolution hasnt started yet. Its time for a peaceful revolution…until they fire the first shot, then we fire the next 500,000.
Wish I was suprised
It’s really funny how Sheriff Joe is being attacked again here in AZ by the Feds and there are claims of “racial profiling” on behalf of the MCSO.
Yet, DHS can profile and say that people who are missing fingers, stockpiling food, ammo and/or guns could possibly be “terrorists”. I don’t see how that is any different.
I agree about this and I remember in the early days after 9-11 many argued that some of what we were doing was playingright into the hands of what they wanted.
i agree. when some of my less than politically astute friends complain about .gov, I always tell them to vote for the dude who raised less money or at least the other guy. both sen. rubio, one of my senators, and rep. allen west, my rep in the HOR voted for this bill. im quite displeased with these “tea party patriots”.
http://www.ready.gov/food
i guess fema is telling us how to become enemies of the state!
i wonder if i can send this link to big sis?
this is why govt is always beating the warmonger drum, they can keep justifying these laws to “protect us”
When I was a kid, when any given situation became intolerable, I could say “Fuck this noise” and go home and no longer be subjected to whatever it was.
God how I miss that option.
Just as the Fourth of July is celebrated as America’s Independence Day, 9/11 may well be mourned by future generations as the moment in this country’s history when we succumbed to fear and surrendered that precious freedom for the sake of an imaginary security provided by ever more intrusive and totalitarian state.
Look on the bright side, some of us might get to retire to a quiet Caribbean island after all.
What you did there? I see it.
For those of us that are the product of public schools, an explanation would be appreciated.
But it would probably deepen my depression over this as well. 
What do you mean? And thank you.
Re-read the article, think about the geography you learned in school, then I’m sure you’ll get it.
I think what he was alluding to was, a nice, long stay at Gitmo…3 hots, and a cot…it don’t get much better than that…
Guantanamo Bay can be the all expenses paid assisted living retirement center in the Caribbean that is so good that you simply cannot say no to. They’ll probably send democrats there too, so they’ll get the best of both worlds, real socialism, in Cuba.