So God gave us Trump

I don’t see how me recognizing that Trump is a deeply flawed candidate in the general discussion forum of a deeply conservative gun forum helps get Biden elected. I have voted for nothing but republicans (with two local exceptions who were personal friends)for my entire 35 year voting life. I don’t think anyone out there has failed to form their opinions of the man yet.

I would prefer DeSantis or even Haley, but I recognize that Trump has such a hold on his followers that they won’t get the nomination. Since I live in reality I don’t take my ball and go home when I don’t get exactly what I want. Trump is objectively better than Biden by almost every measure (I wish Trump had Biden’s Social media discipline/inability to operate a keyboard). I plan on voting for Trump and pray to God he won’t be sitting next to a Democrat in a repeat of this in a few years…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvlNyR2DGSM
//youtu.be/RvlNyR2DGSM

This video worries me a shitload more than the OP’s cringey video.

I hope primary voters wouldn’t be stupid enough to nominate her or they’ll get what they deserve for doing so: four more years of a Democrap fvcking from the White House. Now if the [presumptive] nominee Lord Cheeto is somehow removed from the process then The Swamp might play last minute fvckery and via shenanigans at the convention (or afterwards) nominate who they want…that too would be a mistake as they will ensure another four years as an “opposition” party.

Funny how The Swamp doesn’t want DeSantis according to what you’re alluding to, but instead want Haley (which I don’t disagree with). Gee, maybe Ron ain’t so bad after all eh?

I agree with you on everything but that bolded part. I refuse to vote for Haley, period. I think I am being pretty generous politics-wise to narrow it down to two candidates I will vote for; one wholeheartedly, and one reluctantly. No one other than those two though. I’m done with the McCains and Romneys of the Republican Party, and that is exactly what Haley is. No bueno amigo.

Now if some outside dark-horse conservative is brought in to fill a void then I might consider that person. A bit biased because he is my Congressman but someone like Mark Green of TN, or someone cut from that cloth. NOT someone already running in the primary though (no Ramiswamy either, don’t trust him).

I have NEVER hit a “D” lever in my life and won’t start in November. Worst-case scenario I just skip the POTUS lever and vote down-ballot.

Position and policy wise what has Haley done that you disagree with?

She’s a RINO. She’s a bit of a warmonger (see stance on Ukraine). She is shrill like Hillary. Her register-the-internet-user comment smacks of Big Government. To top it off the fact that her support is largely coming from non-traditional sources (like donors who are not Republicans or conservatives) makes me think she is exactly the candidate the GOPe/Swamp wants, and therefore makes her exactly what I DO NOT want.

I thought you were a DeSantis guy? Why the consideration of Haley? That kind of acquiescence or “Plan B” is what The Swamp hopes they’ll get.

Yeah I’m in for DeSantis, but to my Haley point I see a lot of folks scoffing at the idea of Nikki but when I ask them to layout positions or policy that they disagree with none can. It’s just the usual rant about rino, warmonger, etc…

I’m just curious why y’all don’t think she’d do good as president. She did fine as a SC legislator and governor. Her actions on taxes should make any conservative smile.

She also caved on the SC flag thing a number of years ago. I’m sure she has a couple redeeming qualities as a Republican but she’s being pushed a little too hard from out in Left field it seems, so naturally I go the other way.

Best way to put it is I don’t want the candidate THEY want. They apparently don’t want DeSantis, and obviously don’t want Trump; gets my suspicion up.

Who is THEY???

Trump’s tireless effort enacting policy to improve America with a God and country theme. Very good. I don’t believe the makers of the vid are a PAC or otherwise affiliated with Trump but maybe they should be considering the heartburn being suffered by anti-Trump media and followers.

In contrast… pro-DeSantis PAC ad with nothing good to say about DeSantis. No doubt more of these type ads will really help DeSantis as they have to date… sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YNXHJJ39gM

She is part of the whole damn problem…i honestly feel trump is the only current candidate that cannot be controlled / manipulated by the swamp.

Bitch is horrifying just like all the other candidates.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1742744362130272710

I actually like Haley’s stated positions, I just don’t trust her. Her fake moral outrage over Vivek mentioning her kids use Twitter and similar BS. She can’t defend herself or her positions without some manufactured drama so I don’t believe she will be any different in trying to enact any of those things.

I have some very similar misgivings about DeSantis.

The GOPe/Swamp critters (part and parcel of the same cabal).

Oh I hadn’t seen that one yet. Another nail in RINO Nikki’s coffin. Oh sure, those scum vermin coming across our southern border ILLEGALLY just want a better life…boo-friggin’-hoo. GTFO of my country and do it legally. Until then rot in Hell you scum.

I can’t believe some are now seeing her as a viable alternative, especially on this website.

IMHO, the only thing worse than a deep state, spineless, do nothing, kick the can down the road Republican is a wacko, progressive Marxist, America destroying Democrat. And the only thing worse than a wacko, progressive Marxist, America destroying Democrat is a two faced, backstabbing, RINO bitch Republican (and we all know the names of this type of scum politicians). I could care less about Trump’s personality and you will never find a perfect candidate, but I believe America’s future would be far, far better off and you would have more money in your pocket with Trump’s policies in place. MAGA in 2024 !!!

Dude you are literally trying to explain this to someone who spams non-stop MSM propaganda. This guy is so deep in the swamp’s narrative he can’t see anything else, you are preaching to deaf ears.

Honestly I don’t think any of y’all have the first clue what this so-called swamp actually is and where the phrase came from. It’s just something trump told y’all to say.

Sorry brother, but she has no positions on anything. She will bend the knee to whomever can get her elected and stands for herself, not any principle.

This is of course self serving by Vivek, but worth watching. It isn’t an accident one of the largest Dem PAC’s is funding her without a chance of beating Trump. Hell, she isn’t even eligible for the office of POTUS, she isn’t a natural born Citizen.

[b]Haley is really a Democrat[/b]

Honestly, anyone who thinks most elected officials aren’t being controlled by the so called swamp / puppet masters / unelected tyrants is irrelevant to the conversation.

It amazes me that anyone criticizes Haley for the flag thing, but is OK with Trump and his virtual complete ignorance of the 2nd amendment…bumpstocks. I might not agree with Haley’s comment about making people reveal their identity on the social media, but Trumps actual action through Executive order “preventing online censorship” actually resulted in more censorship by social media.

I’ll hold my nose and vote Trump again, but will continue to be disappointed that nobody else has risen up to lead the Republican party.

Haley was parroting Jeb Bush from a decade ago: “Yes, they broke the law, but it’s not a felony. It’s an act of love,” Bush said. sigh…

I believe Haley would be far more likely to appease opposition from the Left than would DeSantis. That said, as governors both Haley and DeSantis had solid republican majorities to carry them. Hardly a proving ground for what would likely be awaiting them in Washington.

DeSantis had impressive national polling numbers prior to campaigning. But when GOP voters began to listen to what he had to say his support fell off a cliff. His policies aren’t far from Trump’s, so I think it’s fair to say that DeSantis simply can’t sell himself. This goes back to what you were saying earlier about Trump’s endorsement carrying DeSantis to the governor’s mansion. DeSantis needs to significancy outperform expectations in Iowa. Otherwise, he’ll be viewed as little more than a circling Vulture in hopes of democrat prosecutors taking down Trump.