I went to a gun show this weekend and saw some encouraging signs.
Unfortunately, there was still no ammo unless you wanted .478 Windshield Wiper or some other oddball caliber.
I did see about 30% of the gun prices were more reasonable (although the gougers were still out in force).
What do you give it? A month? The summer?
Of course, this could all change depending on what Barry does or if there is another school shooting.
I do not think ammo will come back to normal for a while Or BCG’s go back to $150-160.
I still cannot believe Wolf is 70 cents a round… That qualifies for the “Dafaq??” 
reaction.
I hope in July the ammo situation will improve.
I think it will die down, but not in a month. Maybe in a year or so. At my local gun store, I see more and more firearms and parts come in stock. Unfortunately, they are still flying off the shelves but not as fast.
As ammo, I think this will be the longest wait before it dies down. Brought .223 reloads for $0.33/round back in November 2012. They were going for $0.80 - $1.20 a round. Absolutely crazy.
It is getting better in some areas, but some stuff is still not back to normal or even close to that.
Example?
Around here, 22LR ammo is still VERY hard to find and if you do find it…they will only allow you to buy one box. Also, most of the 22LR I see is not the large boxes but the tiny 50rd boxes or maybe the 100rd Mini Mag packs.
9mm pistol ammo is also very hit and miss…especially if you want more than a box or two.
The other pistol calibers seem to be around, but not in huge numbers. If you want 40 or 45 around here…chances are you can find it but maybe not in large quantities.
223 is also hit and miss. Many sellers will only sell you a 20rd box at a time. Again…it is around but you cannot buy large amounts and the flavors vary wildly from store to store.
Everything else seems to be coming back and is not hard to find now. 30-06 and other “deer” calibers are easily found as is most shotgun shells. 17HMR is also around.
The guns? Well I am seeing decent prices on the few ARs for sale. Mags for any “tactical” styled rifles are also very hit and miss. I have yet to see spare hi-cap mags for Glocks or 10-22s or my S&W M&P15-22 to show up in stores.
So yeah…it IS getting better but we are far from a perfect buying world yet. Maybe by mid-summer most of this will stabilize.
-brickboy240
I say by fall is when it’ll calm down. My LGS is limiting ammo purchases all around. 1 box of pistol and 100 rounds of rifle. Usually the main calibers that are used.
I’ll be surprised if .223 and 9mm return to 2012 price levels before the end of the year. The combination of possibly 1 million-plus new gun owners and the desire by others never to be caught unprepared will keep people buying at an artificially high rate for months to come.
To think that six months ago I passed on quality 9mm at $230/1000 because I didn’t want to pay $17 shipping, and $350/1000 5.56 because I was holding out for $.30 per round…
Doc, I have been looking for .478 Windshield Wiper for what seems like forever. :lol:
Stock here at some stores is drained. Some have a decent amount. One has a ton of stuff but I refuse to give them my money due in part to their inflated prices and the fact that most of their employees are clueless d-bags. As for ammo, most shops do get some often and in most cases you need to be there right when they open to get some. A few shops do limit the quantity you can buy, typically 3 boxes per day, per customer, per caliber. In all honesty that doesn’t bother me too much as I really only need 9mm plinking stuff generally or am “replenishing” brass for reloading 5.56.
ETA: As for gun shows, I generally do not go to them as I prefer to support my local shops that are small and have great people that work at them. I have heard the last few shows here in town were pure crazy. A co-worker went to the show in Phx this past weekend and said it was nuts as well.
Do I think the panic is over…unfortunately; not by a long shot.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=129472
This type of nonsense will continue for a while and therefore so will the panic.
I know right. I feel incredibly stupid for the same reasons.
It looks like its calming down around here. Ammo is still hard to find and places that do have it are limiting sales. However one of the local shops has probably 2 dozen ARs on the wall and at decent prices. PSA rifle for 900, Daniel Defense for around 1400, and M&Ps for around 1100. I even saw a DPMS at the local Walmart that wasn’t bought for at least a couple days.
The weapon rush is definitely over. The ammo rush will continue for the foreseeable future.
No kidding!
What good is the AR when you cannot find extra mags and ammo supplies are iffy?
-brickboy240
There’s plenty of guns and mags in AZ. Cabelas had tons of D&H 30 last week.
Ammo will be tight because a lot of people are going to be hedging the next panic… which extends the current panic.
I think the real teaching point here is if/when things do restabilize in the market, it makes very good sense to over-invest a bit in those things you have come to realize that you have not had on-hand for the past six months.
When ammo is plentiful and easy to obtain, we buy a couple-hundred rounds, maybe, and move on to other things. A possible lesson here is to buy by the case, instead. Same goes for spares and such. If you don’t have a spare LPK or BCG in the kit box, don’t wait to pick them up, assuming that they will always be in stock, as was once the case. There are no such guarantees any longer, and these items will always be in high demand because people are finally waking up to our emergent realities.
Personally, I put priority on picking up a few non-dedicated lowers last year, just to insure that I would have the potential to continue building in the event of a ban. Fortunately, we’ve dodged that for now, but the logic is still sound. Get the things that you need, or might need, or could possibly need when they become available again – even if there are no hounds at the door when this day comes. Having a spare lower, or three, affords you the discreet opportunity to assemble additional rifles after-the-fact should the door ever be closed for good. More to the point, this can be done for a very reasonable cash outlay.
One final thing to consider: I have two sons, neither of whom had ARs of their own when all of the saber-rattling began a year or two ago. To insure that they would not find themselves in the same situation that I did on May 19th, 1986 (when I wanted to buy a new Colt M-16A1, but $1,500 was a lot of money; hence no M-16A1), I made sure that I had lowers set aside for them. One of those is now a very nice (complete) BCM mid-gas lightweight 14.5" in the hands of a very squared-away 1LT. =]
AC
Visited my local gun store here in SW Montana, fair amount of AR’s including an AAC 300 blackout … Scar heavy, few AK’s… Nice to see, but the ammo shelves still bare. Only thing I’m buying for quite awhile is tactical gear…
Nope, to be revisited. Going to ebb & flow w/ Black Swan events until…Entropy
^This^
I don’t think many realize the far reaching & various mechanisms working against us right now.
Everything happening in concert right now all over the world and here at home isn’t some gigantic coincidence or mistake.
The powers that be are near the end of the rope (As are we all) and the last step is to disarm/render impotent as much of the populace as possible before it all crumbles.
Just look how easily it has become to control the citizenry via the media and now social media (Yeah- it works for our side SOMETIMES). Very few people are questioning anything they are spoon fed at all.
They have successfully rendered 3/4+ of the population impotent and unable to even think for themselves let alone protect themsleves or their country. And they accomplished this all through controlling the media and the education system.
Why would they need to go door to door to confiscate when using the back door has worked quite well for well over a decade?
They are breeding America/liberty & individual freedom out of Americans and replaceing it with a false dichotomy of safety and equality in teh name of the greater good- convincing the citizenry that the Govt. is its ultimate protector and arbiter.
People are enslaving themselves en masse and even those who are awake and see what is happening are paying taxes to contribute to their further enslavement as well.
Even the ones who are questioning the BS, are mostly lost navigating a sea of misinformation and overloaded by the shear volume of information to sift through to come to any cogent explanation of how we are being manipulated, by whom and why.
Im still in a panic lol.
Can’t find affordable ammo 
Missing classes left and right because I don’t want to tap into the couple of cases I have stashed for a “rainy day”
This is shaping up to be the Achilles Heel of the Socialist plan though…
I’d never thought that I’d see gun grab legislation beaten back. And that’s the last and most important piece of ruining this country.
There’s interesting times ahead for sure…
Firearm and magazine supply has caught up in many areas but “over” is not the correct word with ammo prices being where they are.
Overpaid for 308 recently. Though they were selling it for 5 cents/round more than M193; and at least it was only 5-15 cents/round over “normal”.
Rifles are coming down quickly there’s some GB stuff out there now bidding lower than list…Ammo not yet and may be awhile…