So Blu-Ray isn't all that?

Some background: the TV took a crap last Friday. Thought I’d take advantage of some sales and get a new flat screen.

Lo and behold, I found out that my old vacuum-picture-tube TV was not only obsolete, but also the DVD player hooked up to it. Seems they use HDMI connections now.

So I bought a $70 Blu-Ray/DVD player on a whim.

I spent the rest of the day browsing stores, and later websites, for Blu-Ray discs. I even looked at a site that has adult videos just for shits and giggles.

It looks to me like there isn’t really that much on Blu-Ray that you can’t get more of on DVD.

I was tempted to order the double disc Blu-Ray of Platoon, but I haven’t yet. I was amazed at the number of Blu-Ray titles on Amazon that seemed to be marked down. I did find Broken Arrow in a store’s bargain bin along with Cloverfield, so I picked those up.

If I’d bought a Blu-Ray player for the porn, I’d be one disappointed puppy, cuz there ain’t shit out there that I can see.

Luckily I’m not into that genre that much. I’m surprised at the number of mainstream titles marked way down though.

Is the format not doing that well?

If Blu-Ray is the same price or within a dollar of the DVD I will get Blu-Ray. I only pay extra for the Blu-Ray when it really matters. Movies like Avatar need to be in HD, but I am not going to pay extra for the Blu-Ray version of Dumb and Dumber.

I agree with this.

I think this is probably more differentiated but I tried to save a few bucks ordering a “Standard Definition” version of “They Grey” on demand through Time Warner Cable instead of the HD version. I figured that movie would be more about action than visual amazement. It looked terrible the whole movie and felt like I was wearing smudged eye glasses the whole time. Never again.

Doc Glockster,

Question for you. Did you buy a 720p or 1080p “High Definition” flat screen?

Why? There’s a huge difference. If it’s a 720p TV, you won’t get that much more out of Blu-ray than your old TV, but if it’s a 1080p TV, there are marked differences.

Even though 720p is technically HD, it isn’t going to take full advantage of Blu-Ray the way a 1080p TV will. I haven’t even started on refresh rates yet. hehe. :smiley:

I would NEVER buy a flat screen that didn’t have RCA, Component, Cable and HDMI connections.

Not sure how the rental/sales are doing, but the format looks like it will endure. Most modern movies can be found in BR. Many movies not even made in HD are on BR and wont really benefit from it (leading some to left confused as to what the difference is) and many people’s TVs neither large enough or true HD (1080p) to notice any real difference, nor their audio good enough to notice the improvements in fidelity.

Most people are more then happy with standard DVD. However, on a good TV that’s big enough (50" or above as a rule) coupled with a good audio set up, on a modern movie that was made in HD, it’s a HUGE difference, and if one really enjoys movies, worth it.

It’s got enough RCA jacks for either the DVD player or the satellite box, but not both.

I was told by a Best Buy employee that the HDMI connections are pretty much the norm for DVD players now.

For $70, I thought “what the Hell” I’ll get the Blu-Ray player and retire the old beast.

What really surprises me is the local stores at least have rows and rows of DVD’s and one little tiny section for Blu-Rays.

And forget about finding “Swedish Erotica” on Blu Ray (LOL).

Similar to taking advice from people who work at guns stores about guns or those who work at GNC about supplements. End well it will not… :nono:

But yes, most consumer grade electronics are going to be plug and play HDMI as USB is to comps. Works fine, but some prefer to use other cables.

Unfortunately, RCA cables don’t have the thru-put that HDMI has, so you do lose a little there. That being said, don’t let them oversell you on Monster cables. There’s a CD Net review measuring impedance across a range of HDMI cables and the Monster cables were marginally better for three times the price.

Like you mentioned Will, unless you have the components to take full advantage, it’s a nil point.

I just scored a 60" LED 1080p and am going to order either a Bose or Sony 7.1 surround sound system to go with it once I head over to the Bose store to feel out if the price difference is worth it (x2.5 over the Sony)

I’ve seen some older movies that definitely weren’t shot on HD but look fantastic on Blu-Ray… Both Godfather and Black Hawk Down really come to mind.

In BHD you can count the hair follicles on shaven people’s faces… :eek:

But I’m watching it on a high dollar BluRay player with a Samsung 1080P 46" Plasma… so I guess it can differ. Cheaper TV’s don’t have as good of HD.

Here you go.

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All I know is I have 10,000+ DVDs and I’m not changing to ANYTHING even if it did exist. Right now both Blu Ray or HD DVD are almost like Laserdisc given title availability.

It’s bad enough that I had to basically dispose of a voluminous VHS collection. Thankfully many of them are now pretty rare and I was able to sell them on Amazon for a decent price rather than just toss them.

And thank god TCM shows a lot of rare films and I have a 1080 DVD recorder.

I’ve also got a couple thousand LPs and 12" singles from my DJ days and more cassette tapes than I care to think about. One day I will need to covert those cassette tapes to digital format so I can unload them as well.

Been there. Done that too. I was “that guy” who bought a laser disc player and within a year something new called the “DVD” came out. Laser discs were horrible: $40-50 each; deluxe editions $100 each. They would show flaws in the picture if they got even a tiny scratch. I’d swear they probably would warp like LP records. I only had about five movies. Anybody want to buy a lightly used laserdisc player?

It’s funny, but when I got a DVD player as soon as they came out, I’d search stores that hadn’t even decided to carry them yet. One guy at a rental place told me, “Well, we probably won’t carry them until we know the format is going to succeed.” A year later they had gotten rid of literally every VHS tape in the place.

It’s bad enough that I had to basically dispose of a voluminous VHS collection. Thankfully many of them are now pretty rare and I was able to sell them on Amazon for a decent price rather than just toss them.

I lucked out in the sense that I only had about ten tapes I “owned” and the rest were rented as needed.

EDITED TO ADD: I take that back. I had all of the original Star Trek episodes on VHS, plus the movies. Luckily I sold them to a Star Trek nut for pretty close to what I paid for them.

A buddy of mine still–and I mean still–has more VHS tapes than DVD’s. He constantly struggles to repair or replace his equipment. VHS machines are becoming the Eight-tracks of the modern era.

I’ve also got a couple thousand LPs and 12" singles from my DJ days and more cassette tapes than I care to think about. One day I will need to covert those cassette tapes to digital format so I can unload them as well.

When in college I was the first person I knew in this town to own a DVD player. No remote control IIRC. It was about $400 in 1983 to basically just play discs. You couldn’t even program the songs you wanted to play in any order: they had to be programmed to play in the order they appeared on the disc.

About three years later I got one that would just about cook breakfast for you and only paid about a third the price.

LP’s were like VHS tapes to me: I never had that many and it was no great loss to switch to CD’s. I’ve got a lot of rare CD’s now: out of print stuff, rare pressings, collectors’ editions. When you know you’ve got one of 5,000 of a CD pressed on a French label designed to introduce an obscure band to the public, you know you’ve got something irreplaceable.

Now I live in fear that CD’s are becoming eight-track tapes and I won’t even be able to buy a replacement CD player in ten years. But they said that about LP’s too.

Thing is: I think LP’s really do sound better than most CD’s. Maybe it’s just the hearing damage “coloring” the sound or something. I also think mono sounds better than stereo.

If I can ever get around to converting all my CD’s to a single storage medium or something I’ll probably call it a day as far as collecting new music.

Older movies won’t benefit from BR because they were probably not shot in a high enough definition to make a difference.

Newer stuff is shot in high enough quality that there is quite a difference between DVD and BR. I bought Game of Thrones in BR, and it’s crazy how much better it is on a new 55" Samsung LED than DVD on a 5-6 year old Sony 1080P LCD.

Not sure where you guys are shopping…but Walmart, BB, and Fry’s all have good sized BR sections. I usually get stuff off Amazon, though.

Why are you guys still using old fashioned cables? If your TV has HDMI…it’s the best option. Both our cable box and PS3 use it. HDMI cables are very cheap these days. It’s a digital signal so there is VERY LITTLE difference between any of them. Not enough for someone to notice. Basically the signal either gets there or it doesn’t. It’s not like analog where cable quality can make a difference. You can run a digital signal through a coat hanger, and people won’t be able to notice. Monster Cables are way over priced, and stores push them because they have huge markups. Some chump buys a $2k dollar TV, and then the salesman pushes them to buy a Monster cable to ‘take advantage of the new TV’ they just bought. If a store can make an extra 50 bucks on a cable it can increase their profit on the sale by quite a bit.

It’s funny, I mostly skipped CDs altogether. I stayed with LPs long enough to transition to mp3s. I think I only ever bought about a dozen CDs. This doesn’t count the ones I burned myself of course.

As far as CD players go, you do realize that pretty much every DVD player is also a CD player right?

Because I have several things hooked up to my TV and many of them don’t have a HDMI cable. And as you stated “signal either gets there or it doesn’t.”

Yes, but I’m old school and I like free-standing stereo’s, ghetto blasters, or stereo systems.

I’ve never had a TV hooked up to a stereo system and vice versa.

I switched to CD’s because I hated the way LP’s would collect scratches and pops as they aged.

CD’s were supposed to be almost indestructible (HA!) and would absorb a few scratches without affecting the music.

I saw a show on the history channel that some of the early CD’s were made from materials that might only last a few years under certain conditions. They showed some CD’s subjected to those conditions being a total loss.

Later ones were and are better, but that was certainly eye opening.

It sort of defeats one of the major selling points of CD’s to begin with.

I store mine carefully and check them for deterioration every couple of years. So far they are all good to go. I’ve got CD’s from the 1980’s that are so far out of print that you can’t even find used copies on eBay.

Old movies were shot on film, which is much higher resolution than 1080. The problem is studios may skimp on the transfer or restoration, etc. If they do it right the movies look great.

A good place to buy cables is monoprice.com.

IMHO you need to get a new BluRay player that can do netflix

quite a few movies are just there for the free streaming and you get one dvd rental at a time for $10 a month

ton of streaming stuff even rentals ! no going to the store etc…
only time I like discs are if they have great special features and I really liked the movie ! very rare anymore !

to me dics are close to dead and streaming is where its at ! I dont bother with discs to much have a pretty nice HT setup all movies are streamed or on my HDD and use a program called Plex

same for TVs combination of sickbeard and plex :slight_smile: dont have to tivo and skip commercials anymore
just play the show no commercials all in HD :wink:
sickbeard plex takes base computer ability though :slight_smile: its easy just a couple steps you have to do

That’s another thing I forgot to mention: I think movies shot on film look better than those shot on video tape or digitally.

There’s something about the grainy, warm quality of film that I like.

One reason I don’t care anything about adult movies anymore is that you have to go back the seventies and early eighties to see one shot on film.

All this is above my head.

I just barely have DSL on my computer and know nothing about receiving videos through the internet to the TV.