Mossberg and Remington are selling their 14 inch barreled pump action shotguns with pistol grips as non-nfa “firearms”.
Can this also be done with a side-by-side?
I realize there is no receiver, and I think they have to be get to 26 inches. So I suppose it would need 18 inch barrels anyway?
Wonder if a forearm brace could be made integral to the grip on some way to get the overall length up? Would actually be kind of neat if that could be pulled off with a traditional pistol grip or straight grip.
I’d be interested. I have to admit I was watching cowboy shows last week and started looking for factory made side by side SBS and came up blank.
Correct me if I’m wrong isn’t the tax stamp for a AOW, which a short pistol gripped shotgun is classified as only 5.00? Why go through the hassle of a work around, idk anyone that is going to travel around with one unless you are Mad Max. The Shockwave and Tac14 have brace options to be like and SBS. I just don’t see the need to do the “firearm” thing here, but maybe I’m wrong.
You still need to pay $200 to make an AOW. The transfer fee is $5. For me it would be for fun.
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Haven’t seen any doubles yet.
Charles Daly is making something that sort of fits the bill, though it’s a triple. With 18.5" barrels and a birdshead grip it has an OAL of 28", about the same as a Mossberg Shockwave:
https://www.charlesdaly.com/p.php?id=529
Chippa makes a triple barrel with wood furniture, that can be configured either with a full stock or pistol grip only:
I believe both guns share the same OEM.
Those are cool options.
This looks interesting. The Coachgun II-SS (Short Stock) Barrels & Stock same length:
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Ahhh see that makes sense then.
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Very cool
Neat, but I’d like to see a good review. What resets the trigger?
I don’t trust recoil-resetting triggers. They fail to set on light loads.
Their web site says it’s a Stoger. I’ll have to do some research. I emailed them late last night. I have not checked my email yet. I’m going to ask about Rem Chokes too.
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Thanks for the info. From my limited research thesecond is reset by recoil. I googled know issues and found several videos with people with failures to fire. Would double triggers solve that issue?
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Because of how short the receiver is on a sxs, a “firearm” is gonna be difficult to get with short barrels.
Really, since a fullblown shotgun has a requirement to be 26" oal, and 18" barrels, anyone could just take an off the shelf sxs and cut to fit, if you want pistol grip only. Unless you find a Virgin receiver, or one that started as a “firearm”, you cannot f1 it into an aow anyways. This is why the super shorty aows start with pg only pumps.
We did a sxs hammer double into an sbs, 11" barrels and half stock.
Yes, two triggers would bypass the single trigger resetting. Some single triggers reset mechanically, they are unaffected by light recoil.
As mentioned, to transfer an aow is $5, to make one on an f1 is $200. However, if you know an 07/sot, they can make your aow and transfer it back to you with a $5 fee. Plus the work. We did a couple super shortys for people that way.
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Excellent info. Thank You! I love English stocks. This look is like an interesting option. I sent you a PM. 
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I’m going to assume that a short, open choked sxs is desired for SD/HD, or some other type of danger where a close rapid delivery is needed.
Many, if not most, sxs shotguns have a feature where the thumb safety is engaged by opening the action. It must then be manually disengaged to fire again after reloading. This feature is usually easily removed. You can engage the safety anytime you want, it just won’t be automatically engaged every time the gun is opened. This is standard procedure for an action job on a shotgun to be used for cas.
Just remember, if you cut a regular sxs into a pg shotgun, you need to stay at or above the 26" oal, and 18" barrel length.
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I was planning on an SBS. That’s great info on the safety. It would be a toy with serious abilities.
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When is a shotgun not a shotgun.
The Tac-13 REMINGTON 12ga. semi-auto is classified as a firearm vs a shotgun. To make a long story short, three of the features are barrel less than 18”, never had a shoulder stock attached & overall length greater than 26”.
Note: letter from ATF on a Mossberg (pump) with similar features to the Remington (semi-auto).
https://www.mossberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Shockwave-Letter-from-ATF-3-2-17.pdf
Check out the recoil, looks VERY manageable:
I have a Tac 14 on order. The semi looks fun too.
I just picked it up. 
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Waiting to hear your review.
My next day off is Tuesday. I’ll report back once I get to shoot it. I swapped out the bbl with a 14" modified bbl with sights I had on a SBS. I also put on a Wilson +1 mag extension and Wilson extra long spring and antilt follower in the gun. I had these parts already on hand. The magazine spring in the gun looked like it was the standard length.
I’ve had an SB Tactical brace sitting around for months looking for a purpose. I think it’s found a new home.
I ordered this Messa adapter and need to check my parts I know I’ve got an AR pistol grip kicking around.
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