Smoothing out the 11.5

[1168]

@MistWolf

A buffer cannot reduce recoil unless it adds mass to the rifle. However, it can soften recoil. It can make the recoil feel smoother. Softening and smoothing recoil helps the shooter control recoil better.

the product in the thread I mentioned was, in fact, a buffer.

Don’t take me too seriously. It was just an observation of semantics, and the way the group reacts to certain word choices. Different users also sometimes get different reactions.

I can go either way on most of these products that smooth the recoil impulse, or reduce it. I’ve been shooting a BRT 14” Optimum with an A5H2 lately and love it. Its my favorite rifle right now.

Most of us would benefit from more ammo and dry fire more than we would from shuffling buffers.

[Hmac]

@MistWolf

A buffer cannot reduce recoil unless it adds mass to the rifle. However, it can soften recoil. It can make the recoil feel smoother. Softening and smoothing recoil helps the shooter control recoil better.

Yeah. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can be spread out over a longer period of time, however, and the acceleration curve can be modified to moderate any sharp humps, thereby reducing felt recoil…

[MistWolf]

@Hmac

Yeah. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can be spread out over a longer period of time, however, and the acceleration curve can be modified to moderate any sharp humps,

Yes, absolutely.

thereby softening felt recoil…

Fixed it for ya

You’re correct that felt recoil is how the recoil feels and that the acceleration rate (attack), duration (sustain) and fade along with other factors, such as stock shape, recoil pad construction and so on, determines how recoil feels to the shooter, it’s still the same amount of recoil energy.

It’s like emptying a 55 gallon barrel of water. You can dump it on someone’s head all at once, or you can pour it over them in a steady trickle. Or, if you really dislike the guy, you could freeze it and dump it on him as a large block of ice. Same amount of water.

[Boogieman2]

@amac

Op, by “smoothing out” do you mean shoot flatter? I’ve got a 12.5” and 10.5” and both run smooth with green Sprinco springs and H2 weights. Action is reliable in both. I’d direct smoothing to the exit point. What muzzle device are you using? I find a good break to have more affect on flatter shooting than slowing my action. Another area for recoil management is weight. I prefer light quad rails over slim, ultra light tubular rails. For me, the few extra ounces yield flatter shots and quicker follow ups. What’s the rest of your build?

Entire build wise
-KAC CQB mod 2 upper
-MAMS
-sandcutter bolt
-VLTOR A5 w/H2
Plus optics.

[1168]

@Boogieman2

Entire build wise
-KAC CQB mod 2 upper
-MAMS
-sandcutter bolt
-VLTOR A5 w/H2
Plus optics.

Sounds like a quality piece. I would change nothing.

[MQ105]

I was thinking along similar lines. Take what you have and add training/ammo…

[amac]

@Boogieman2

Entire build wise
-KAC CQB mod 2 upper
-MAMS
-sandcutter bolt
-VLTOR A5 w/H2
Plus optics.

That’s a bulletproof build! I don’t have any experience with KAC’s muzzle devices, but their website states felt recoil can be reduced by as much as 67%, depending on barrel length, with that device. Paired with your A5 buffer system, you may be looking for a unicorn solution. I have a 12.5” Knights build with the older URX II quad rail. I went with an AAC brake system and can. Without the can, she shoots super flat. Unless you’ve purchased the KAC can, perhaps try another brake and see if she shoots any flatter. Otherwise, don’t think the grass is any greener!

[Wake27]

@Boogieman2

Entire build wise
-KAC CQB mod 2 upper
-MAMS
-sandcutter bolt
-VLTOR A5 w/H2
Plus optics.

I wouldn’t change anything, aside from maybe experimenting with different VLTOR buffers like the -3.

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[Jwknutson17]

@Wake27

I wouldn’t change anything, aside from maybe experimenting with different VLTOR buffers like the -3.

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Agree with what Wake said above. The 3 works really well with the vltor or colt spring.

I personally run the A5h2 with the Green spring. That is what I run on multiple KAC 11.5 CQB guns with the MAMS and quality ammo.

[BoyScout4Life]

Wolf xtra power spring and h2 buffer, works fine for me…

[ViniVidivici]

No experience with the VLTOR A5 system, but it sounds like it’d be your best bet.

I just run an H buffer w/ standard CAR spring in mine. Runs fine.

[BufordTJustice]

My 11.5" Sionics RGP with SpecWar 556 runs great.

Vltor A5 system with Tubbs AR10 Buffer spring and A5H4 buffer.

LMT enhanced BCG

SLR Rifleworks sentry 7 AGB

Shoots like a hot .22 with XM193/855. Precious little port noise.

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[indianalex01]

Colt 6933EPR. Geiselle super 42 and H buffer is what it came with. I don’t notice it being and different then a stock spring and H1. It’s a feel good fix to something that has no issues. Rifle is awesome.

[bigjoe7757]

I used the A5 system with the 5.3oz buffer when I built my 11.3 BA Hanson and it shoots great. I did put a green sprinco spring in it and didn’t like the results, It felt like the action was to slow. Went back to the Stock spring and it works great.