I did a search for this ammo but didn’t see anything about anyone testing it. The gel pictures from the SSA catolog look pretty good but I would tend to trust Dr. Roberts far more than promotional material
It is an interesting round to me given the fact that it is a bonded 64gr round loaded to 5.56 pressures. Has anyone used this round, and if so, how did you like it? It looks like an affordable ($1 per round) barrier blind 5.56 option for those of us who can’t access the LE purchasing system.
It is on our list to test in 2012.
How much should 5.56 pressure be a deciding factor with barrier blind bullets?
Honestly you probably know far better than me, I just assumed (yeah, I know what they say about that :laugh:) that a 5.56 round would probably work better out of a 16" or shorter barrel but I could just be FoS.
I am also unsure of the quality of SSA ammo, do they usually make good stuff?
i have been trying for weeks to get a solid answer to this ever since i stumbled upon the 64gr ppt. the 70gr tsx load looks nice too at 2750 fps from a 16". a week later and 17 forums later, i still cant get solid confirmation on the reliability aspect of ssa’s ammo.
SSA has worked pretty well.
I have a 6.8 as a go to so I have not really looked at the difference. Everyone looks for 5.56 pressure defensive ammo because of the limited fragmentation velocity, while the bonded designs may upset at lower velocities.
here is what i “know” via ssa’a web site and emails to ssa"s customer service. it is much like a tbbc in construction with a more protected tip, (should be good for you -leading on the feed ramp guys) expands to .46 caliber, expands with in the first 2"-4" or penetration, expands down to 1700 fps, muzzle velocity of 2850 from a 16" barrel. and i assume penetration is comparable to other bb loads…probably 16"-18" in bg, but im not sure on that one.
Does it bother anyone else tha ssa uses nothing in regards to primer crimps or sealant? I think ammo intended for “real deal” use should have some kind of water proofing, crimps, cannalures, ext… ssa uses nothing.
Not in the least.
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“I think ammo intended for “real deal” use should have some kind of water proofing, crimps, cannalures, etc…”
Yes, duty ammo should have all of the above.
Really? Why not? Why do have no regard for those things on your duty ammo? Not trying to sound like an ass…just trying to learn.
Do you do the same when you handload? If it goes bang after sitting in a bag while hunting and it’s humid, snowy, or conditions are not ideal then I’d say it’s safe for duty. Maybe I’m off base here but I don’t see it as a necessity in my case. Never had a FTF in ssa ammo.
Brandon
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I can see your point. It may just be because I’m used to having those features on duty ammo or maybe its just a mental thing, but I like sealant and crimps when I can have it. I have no idea if it actually makes any differance one way or anouther.
When hunting, if your ammo fails, you dont get some game.
With “duty” ammo (le/mil duty ammo and even civilian defensive ammo) if your ammo fails, you die.
“It’s better to have and not need than to need and not have.”
When your life is on the line, the reliability of your ammo and firearm cannot be too good. There is a reason military and FBI ammo is always sealed and always has a crimped primer, and neck. There is also a reason handloads are not recommended for defensive/duty use.
This is how I feel about it as well. That is why I question silver state armory’s ammo. I wonder why they decided not to crimp/seal the ammo. I thought they were selling their ammo on the tactical market.
I am not le/mil so I can’t attest to what they do for those customers.
I’ll send Susan an email and see if I can get a response.
Brandon
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+1
I have had popped primers before because they weren’t crimped into the brass. When you get a popped primer in an AR15, the primer goes down into the fire control group and it locks up your gun. Picture the old cartoons where they put a big wrench inside some gears, and that’s exactly what happens when a primer pops and falls down into your FCG.
That is exactly what I am afraid of
Sorry to double post but…have thees issues caused any one to turn away from silver state armory’s ammo on a function level when they would of selected it on a balistic performance level if it was infact crimped in the proper way, sealed, canalured, ext…? Because that’s where I am at.