Sig Sauer 1911 Tactical Operations / Blackwater. anyone?

hey guys, I have seen the Sig 1911 Tac ops before online but I never really paid that much attention to it, not until today… I went to a local sporting goods store today and I finally did see a Sig Sauer 1911 Tactical Operations. I ask the guy on the counter if I could hold that fine looking pistol and he did. I fell in love to it so quick that I forgot to do what I was suppose to do in that store in the first place. Also I am currently in the market of getting another 1911 with rail this time.

now my questions are… Is Sig Sauer 1911 Tac Ops any good? reliable and can I trust my life with it? there are a couple things about the pistol that I’m not too crazy about. one is the Hammer… I didn’t like the position of the half-cocked hammer. and the other one is the Thumb Safety. So are the internal parts of the Sig 1911 Tac Ops are identical to any other 1911s out there? I know it’s got a external extractor but I was just wondering if I can easily replace the internal parts with something else if I want to. Like replace the hammer with Wilson Combat hammer and replace the Thumb safety with extended low-profile non-ambidextrous thumb safety?

Anyone here who have experience with Sig 1911 Tac Ops? please let me know. Because I really want to get one but I wanna make sure first that the internal parts are interchangeable or replaceable with a standard 1911 parts out there.

Thanks in advance… I would really appreciate the replies about this pistol. because I am really serious about getting one for my Birthday…

Thanks again

The internals are largely the same.

You can replace the hammer and thumb safety with ease.

I would encourage you to wait for the 1911 TACOPS Traditional Model.

It is the same as the TACOPS, but it has a traditional shaped slide so it will fit a broader range of holsters.

I have re-worked both the 1911 Traditional and the 1911 Scorpion guns and have had great luck with both. The traditional now has over 6000 rounds through it and it has been working very well. The only change I have added has been to polish up the feed ramp at around 3800 :suicide:

Here is the link to the thread: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=86169

The Scorpion has a little over 4000 now and it is running well with 230gr ammo. HP or Ball doesn’t matter, it just likes the longer OAL rounds.

Both are using WC mags.

Here is the Scorpion link: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=85558

Good Luck,

The half-cock position of a 1911 hammer is not something that should affect your decision to purchase a 1911. It is there solely as a safety to prevent the hammer from falling and hitting the firing pin with sufficient force when ‘thumbing’ the hammer if it slips. A practice that is NOT recommended on a 1911.

dont know about whats inside but the fit and finish equal the TRP

I personally would not go that far, but it is a good gun. I think there are some better for the money such as STI’s offerings, but you wont be disappointed with the sig

i agree that sig is a good one…but TRP is a damn fine weapon.

I have about 400 rounds through mine so far so good but if I was going to do it again I would have bought the traditional model because of holster choices

This is not even a choice. TRP, not the weapon named after the company that issues Glocks.

I don’t have personal experience firing the Sig Tac Ops, so I’ll say that up front. What I would say, is that few experienced 1911 guys who are looking for a duty/carry reliable 1911 will carry a Sig 1911, and I personally wouldn’t. If you want to confirm that theory, go to a leading 1911 forum, like http://forums.1911forum.com, or http://m1911.org, and ask the question. It’s partly due to Sig using unconventional 1911 parts like the external extractor you mentioned (plus the Colt series 80-style firing pin safety), and partly due to Sig’s known issues with QA and reliability.

In the price range you’re looking at, Springfield TRP, or Dan Wesson Valor (they’ll be a bit higher, but still in the range if you can find one slightly used or a previous year’s model).

Well, a German company that jumped on the 1911 bandwagon as they saw a market niche, does not get a nod from me when I can chose from companies who have made 1911s for many decades, to almost 100 years. Colt, SA, etc.

Sig’s 1911s have had a mixed history in terms of reliability issues, but seem to have gotten the bugs out from what I hear. One LE tac team I know who uses the Sig 1911 had to send them back a few times, and once all set, didn’t love them, didn’t hate them.

Hi I own the Sig Sauer 1911 TACOPS w/threaded barrel and imho its really good. Currently I have around 700 rounds through it without any serious malfunctions or problems. I wasn’t too sure about the quality of Sig Sauer’s internal parts (I’m sure they are great but I am just a paranoid person) and I have a tendency for over customization so I did a major overhaul with mine. For example I replaced the barrel with a Stormlake barrel and replaced about 90% of the internal parts with either Wilson Combat or Knighthawk. I could have bought Wilson or Knighthawk but the Sig Sauer was significantly cheaper and it came with the rail so that’s the way I went. However my gunsmith informed me some parts were unique to Sig Sauers design so I could not replace them. At the top of my head the firing pin, extractor, and beaver tail grip safety was designed for the TACOPS. In regards to your hammer question I am running Knighthawks new hammer so I think it would work with wilsons, as per your safety I dont really know, I liked the stock ambi safety so i kept it.

If you have any other questions feel free to contact me and ill give my 2 cents.

just realized i spelled nighthawk wrong in my previous post, my bad

Thanks for sharing that your Sig is good now that 90% of it has been replaced…

Its because comments like that more people don’t post their actual usage and thoughts. Sorry I am not a pro like military moron or larry vickers. However I’ll “correct” myself because obviously my 2 cents does not help or is a waste of your precious time to read…

I replaced the parts because I like wilson and nighthawk’s parts, for example nighthawk has a new tool steel hammer I fancied. I did it for CUSTOMIZATION. No where did I say the TACOPS was so crappy I had to overhaul 90% of the parts. I shot a good 500 rds before my work and it shot great! The guy had a question and wanted actual users experience/thoughts, I did my best to answer some of his questions.

Sorry if my posts weren’t as in depth as yours…

I appreciated your comments.

I was thinking hard about a sig tacops with a threaded barrel but just with Sig’s quality problems the last few years I am really thinking I am just going to have to buy a nice 1911 and never look back. Nighthawk or Ed Brown or something. Buy once cry once I guess. FML!

My 2008ish P226 has been good but it’s still got under a thousand rounds through it so I don’t know if I can use that as a good indicator of sig quality.

Ed Brown, by most accounts, GTG. For the $$$, personally, Nighthawk not on the short list. I know the owners Nighthawk come from good 1911 making pedigree, but I prefer companies with long term experience in QC, CS, and and I feel they charge too damn much for their products. I do know a very experienced 1911 shooter who got the LAV model when it came out, and he had nothing but problems with it. They did make it right for him, but considering what that thing cost (and we all know what LAV decided to do regarding the cost…) it should have been GTG and a bag of chips. It was not.

Granted, n = 1 there to be sure, but he wouldn’t buy another one from them I know that much.

But that’s a model they designed and have been making for a long time. 1911, not so much.

When there’s known manufactures making fine 1911s, having done so for decades or more, vs. a new-to-the market “we wanna jump on the 1911 bandwagon 'cause they are popular” 1911, it’s as no brainer as it gets, at least to my dented brain.

I did not intend to attack you but it’s hard to determine that any firearm is good to go when 90% of it has been replaced. Heck, even most Kimbers are good to go after 90% of the parts are replaced so it doesn’t tell us much.

Only 90%? :smiley:

A number of smiths have told me they found Kimber slide/frame out of spec and had to fix it, so I wouldn’t even start with their slide/frame as a base personally.

Others mileage may vary, but it’s not nearly as uncommon a comment from a smith who works with Kimber’s (assuming he’ll even let them in his shop) as it should be regarding frame/slide fit/specs.

Rest assured, I would never recommend Kimber to anyone but my enemies. They seriously need to get back to the basics and build a solid, simple firearm to ever be considered quality (again).

I’ve owned my share of high end 1911s. I bought the tacops tacpack last year without threaded barrel. Sure it came with the cheesy holster and green laser, but I’m going to say for $730 it’s been worth the money. I replaced a few parts…the sights, slide lock and trigger with 10-8 parts simply because I’m a 10-8 fan:D My only knock is the slide is indeed wider than the traditional 1911, but it your running kydex holsters it’s nothing a heat gun can’t fix.