Is this MK25 good marketing or did Sig do anything to step up their game. I don’t own any Sigs so I have no history, good or bad.
Or did they put lipstick on a pig?
Same Sig, same marketing
The MK25 has true 1913 picatinny rails instead of the current somewhat rounded rails on the regular “R” variants. It has some phosphated internal parts too.
But other than that, it’s pretty much the same Sig P226.
I would have considered getting one but suitable duty grade holsters for it is virtually nonexistent.
It’s their original USN with the phosphate internals, and a 1913 spec rail. Oh, and it’s got a cute little sticker. Marketing more than anything.
Same shit, it’s too bad those overpriced pistols are made better. They have potential so it seems.
Picatinny rail, phosphated internals, 3 mags, chrome lined barrel, and that bar code type sticker on the left side of the frame.
Okay, this is a tidbit I stumbled upon last week: there is a company located in India called Indo MIM (or Indo-MIM I’ve not looked them up yet) that is making all of Sig’s INTERNALS for their pistols.
I see two problems: MIM Fire Control Group parts are a no-no to me (cannot polish said parts much as the very thin case hardening is easily worn away)
And why all the way to India? There are plenty of companies here in the USA that can produce said parts (that I do not like).
I have a friend in Massachusetts that has been telling me his buddy has been telling him that they’ve been “cleaning up quite a few” of these parts prior to shipping.
I don’t buy Sig - but I do like the feel and accuracy of the P226.
SIG-Sauer has been using a lot of MIM parts in their pistols.
FAM (Federal Air Marshal) P229s don’t have the MIM locking blocks and extractors and internals like the commercially available guns do. Their frames are also different.
Are those guns manufactured here? What is different about their frames?
I think so as well. I have a late 90s P226 that’s an awesome pistol. It points really well, it’s accurate, has a great trigger. There’s really not a lot about it not to like.
There is a similar thread on the sigforum discussing whether the newest version of the P series is worth buying or not and one of the guys from Grays seems to think they’ve worked out their problems. Time will tell.
It’s just marketing. It’s almost the same as the regular P226Rs, with a few very small differences that IMO, don’t effect function.
That is interesting to hear. I’d be willing to pay for the milled and EDM’d components. I’ll bet everyone here would, too…
My department had acquired similar models for our marine unit several years ago. Some officers thought because of its treatment they weren’t required to clean their pistols on a regular basis. Lo and behold, they found out the pistols rusted just like any pistol would in the harsh salt environment with no cleaning. The were “corrected” by the unit NCO at inspection time!
Our department dumped Sig last year because of continuing problems with high-round count pistols (specifically SWAT team and FTU pistols), and poor customer service on the part of Sig. Currently, we’re replacing the Sigs with M&P .45s, and we couldn’t be happier!
So if FAM’s get different pistols, and assuming they are better pistols, do I assume the Navy’s MK25 is different too? Why would Navy Spec Ops accept an inferior pistol with MIM parts?
So if FAM’s get different pistols, and assuming they are better pistols, do I assume the Navy’s MK25 is different too? Why would Navy Spec Ops accept an inferior pistol with MIM parts?
I guess it would depend if the Navy specifically requested machined parts. In a meeting I was in with some Sig high-ups about the continued small parts breakage in our Sig 226 DAK pistols, the Sig company men refused to say whether or not they used foreign MIM’d parts in our pistols. They simply said it was “proprietary information”. But they did let slip that certain federal agencies specifically request machined parts rather than MIM parts in their pistols. Considering we had used their pistols for almost 20 years, we had assumed that they would give us the best pistols they made, without us having to specifically request non-failing parts! That contributed much to us terminating our relationship with Sig.
Good to know the good stuff isn’t available to us ‘minions’…
Commercial gun have the same frame window (where you can see the trigger bar, safety lever and sear) for SAO, DAK & DA/SA. When using this style frame supposedly they had heavy frame wear issues with heavy use and .357SIG ammo. Their frames are have a different window. Also their serial numbers have FAM as the first three characters. Some FAMs are also using the E2 grips.
Interesting…Thanks for the reply
I have one with now 1300 problem free rounds. I would like to note that I posted in another thread that it does not have a chrome lined barrel according to customer service. I saw a gun writer print this and called and was told no it does not. The 226 Combat however does.
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Looks chrome lined to me:
