SIG MCX Spear First Impressions

Howdy folks! A few weeks back I posted the Sig MCX Spear I picked up through the “Friends of Sig” Program. Sometimes working retail does have its advantages! After fiddling with it for a few weeks, I finally got a chance to get it out to the range, and try it out. This is not intended to be a review, as I want a lot of time with the gun before I solidify any opinions, just a few first impressions.

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As a bit of background, I am a former Army Infantryman, and all of my opinions here should be seen through that lens. I am also a huge fanboy of 7.62 NATO/.308, and am more than willing to accept the increased weight and recoil for the advantages of that cartridge. My current favorite battle rifle is the the FN SCAR 17S, and I will likely compare the Spear to it many times in this.

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Alrighty, enough blabbing, here’s the BLUF:

Pros:

Great Ergonomics
Makes use of off the shelf AR upgrades/parts/accessories

Cons:

Mediocre Accuracy
Chonky

If you look up the Spear on line, the two issues every keyboard commando will warn you about is the weight, and recoil. Folks will spout numbers off saying how many tons it weighs, or showcase videos of the rifle bouncing out of the hands of guys firing one. Honestly, neither issue is really a big deal for me. The recoil is certainly more than a 5.56 AR, but on par or better than an AR-10. It’s not quite as good as the SCAR, but not terribly far behind it either. It certainly weighs more than the SCAR, about a pound heavier as kitted out in the above picture, but still in the modern fighting rifle weight range. I’d say a fair percentage of that is the relatively heavy barrel the Spear has.

Compared to the SCAR, the Spear has a few major advantages, namely in aftermarket support. This is true because the Spear uses a lot more AR compatible parts than the SCAR. Triggers, pistol grips, mags, buttstocks, safeties, etc all work right out of the box. At the same time, the Spear shines over an AR-10 by being designed from the ground up with a piston system and internal recoil spring. No buffer tube needed on this guy. To some, that’s a minor issue, but it means the design has more flexibility moving forward. The AR has been long shackled by the receiver extension being crucial to the design; folding stocks have to take that into account, and the now very popular AR carbine stock in designed around that issue. The Spear side steps the issue, and gives the weapon the option to use existing stocks, or whatever folding/collapsing designs come out in the future. At the same time, it has intigrated the longer, M-LOK handguard much better than the SCAR has. Controls are very heavily AR inspired, but notable improvements are ambi controls for everything, including a very user friend trigger finger bolt catch/release for right handed shooters, and a charging handle worthy of the name with the left side charger. (non reciprocating for those that care about such things) In short, the Spear feels more “future proof” than either the AR or SCAR, lessons learned on these and other current weapons baked into the design from the get go, but with room for the design to grow and improve on its own as well.

What about the down sides? Well, as mentioned, it’s a heavy girl. It’s also chonky in that it feels bigger than it really is. Like most piston guns, the rifle is a bit front heavy as well, meaning that you start feeling it after a while of running and gunning with it. Not terrible, but noticeable. More importantly, to me, is the rifle’s mediocre accuracy. Most reviewers will state that they are 2-3 MOA, and that’s true. While the SCAR, and many AR-10s are capable of 1 MOA accuracy with good ammo like Federal Gold Medal Match, the Spear isn’t one of them. I had a couple of groups as small as 1.5 MOA, but even with high quality ammo, 2-3 was the normal range. Ball ammo widened up a bit, but not terribly so. Certainly within the “combat accuracy” range for a battle rifle, but not likely a good candidate for a DMR.

Only malfunctions I experienced through the course of the day were a few failure to feeds, always on the last round in the magazine. Some times it would try to feed the round, and the bolt would smash the case a bit, and other times it would just close on an empty chamber. (thinking about it now, it seemed to be worse earlier in the day than later, with the first couple rounds bent badly, but later ones still very much capable of being fired) I didn’t jot down which magazines this happened with, but it was with both MagPul LR/SR PMags, and Lancer L7AWM mags. Hopefully it’s just a break in issue, and it’ll work itself out over time, but we’ll see. Going to look into the issue and see what I can find.

Anywho, hopefully that made sense to someone. Here’s a couple pictures of my dorky butt at the range having fun. Not sure why, but I like the vibe of Tigerstripe and the Spear’s FDE.

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Pretty cool, thanks for the info. They are well north of $4K, correct?

How come you didn’t have latest greatest computerized SIG optic on it, the XM157? :sarcastic: You know, the one that does everything but give you a hand-job!

Thanks. The “not suitable as a DMR” bit is a bummer. That’s the one thing I hoped it’d shine at. Hey guys, we built up this lesson in our heads that we need a 600m rifle because Afghanistan…but no need for it to be precise or accurate, just powerful. Hopefully something comes of that. Are you going to get the silencer, also?

Love the tiger stripe. It’s interesting that the Spear has a heavier barrel, but the accuracy isn’t as good. It’s also interesting that Sig decided to go with the mismatched upper and lowers like FN did.

Thanks for the review. I am a SCAR 17 fan. I like the comparison. I have drooled over the SPEAR, but with 5 SCARs will prolly stick with those. Based on your review the most disappointing issue is the accuracy that you report. I figured that rifle would do better than that. Although the fact it doesn’t come with cheese greater rails is a big plus. And the first thing my SCARs leave behind. Just cost $$.

What kind of FGMM? I have found that my SR-25 is extremely picky with ammo; it can be 1 MOA (or even sub-MOA) with factory match 168 gr at 100 yards, but is typically 1.5 MOA at best with anything 175 gr, while with various bonded rounds (factory Speer Gold Dot, handloaded Nosler AccuBond and Federal TBBC), it hovered around 2 MOA, while ball ammo could be atrocious at 6 to even 8 MOA.

Disappointing to hear the mediocre accuracy, though I suppose we have been spoiled by how well AR-15s can be shot.

What kind of FGMM? I have found that my SR-25 is extremely picky with ammo; it can be 1 MOA (or even sub-MOA) with factory match 168 gr at 100 yards, but is typically 1.5 MOA at best with anything 175 gr, while with various bonded rounds (factory Speer Gold Dot, handloaded Nosler AccuBond and Federal TBBC), it hovered around 2 MOA, while ball ammo could be atrocious at 6 to even 8 MOA.

Disappointing to hear the mediocre accuracy, though I suppose we have been spoiled by how well AR-15s can be shot.

The XM157 is actually a Vortex optic, not Sig. And if you think the Spear is pricey, wait til you check out the price take on those things!

I got my Spear through the Friends of Sig program, so I got it a bit cheaper than the normal shelf price. It was $3455 after tax and shipping.

I plan on getting a can for it down the line. Got to recover from this purchase and a TW helmet first though.

Yeah, the Spear really came across to me as a SCAR, but with lessons learned and all of the aftermarket accessories and upgrades straight from the factory. It still is that, its just lost some of its accuracy in the process.

I tried both 168gr and 175gr FGMM. 168gr was slightly better, at just under 2" for a 5 shot group.

I plan on trying again with both FGMM loads, True Velocity, M118, and other ball ammo loads again after it’s broken in a bit more.

Damn, you did great on that! Good score.

If you’re gonna get a can try to get the 13" barrel, which is what the Army issued Spear has (of course it is in the 6.8x51 flavor).

I have the 5.56 Spear LT and I splurged and bought the LE/mil chrome lined 16" barrel for it, which added another $700 to the already high price. If anyone is interested in buying a never-fired 16" nitrided factory barrel assembly let me know!

Sorry to read about your disappointing experience thus far.

Just a thought, but I have read about some pretty nice improvements in accuracy with barrel break-in. Also, there are things like muzzle device torque, single loading rounds into the chamber, barrel bedding, and other diagnostics.

That’s ultimately the plan. I toyed with the getting the 13" pistol version from the get go, but figured the rifle would be a better starting point (and work is so damn fudderized they refuse to transfer AR pistols still). Figured I’d get a can, and eventually a 13" barrel. (possibly in 6.8/.277 Fury, if they become available)

That’s the hope. I can live with the accuracy as is if the fail to feed on the last round goes away. Reliability is more important than MOA accuracy on a battle rifle for me.

Is your rifle .308 or the .277 round? Sorry if that’s redundant.

SIG just announced the civilian availability of 6.8x51mm versions. These have a revised handguard and no forward assist. I guess the .308 versions are now collectable?

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.308 Win. As mentioned in Crosseyedshooter’s post, the .277/6.8 versions haven’t been commercially released yet.

OK, since the old Forum was in Hospice when this went down, I never posted this. Copying it here so folks can make sense of the next post moving forward.

Range trip #2 for the Spear, and boy was a it a doozy.

Out of about 350rds downrange today, upwards of 10% had feeding issues of one type or another. The last picture shows the ones that were damaged enough I didn’t apply “if it seats, it yeets” to. More were only slightly dinged, or just didn’t feed and were shot. First trip also had the same issues, but seemed to settle into just not feeding correctly by the end. Total rounds through the rifle is approximately 550-600. Mags are new, ammo is all factory from 4 manufacturers (Winchester/Lake City, PPU, PMC, and IMI), and the problem also occurred last time with Hornady Z-Max and Federal Gold Medal Match. The same problem occurs whether the rifle is being fired prone supported, seated, standing, etc. Kit/no kit also doesn’t matter. It’s not every mag, but ebbs and flows, sometimes back to back, and other times with a couple of functional mags worth between issues. Usually on the last or next to last round in the mag, but not always.

Based on most folks thoughts, its gas system needs work, and it’s going to have to go back to Sig. Well, damn.

When it wasn’t misfeeding and tearing up ammo, flat range LARPing with the Spear was pretty fun.

Shortly after that post was originally made, I ended up sending the Spear back to Sig. According to tracking, they got it Monday, 15 July. I went into work yesterday, 23 July, and found a Spear sitting on my desk. Turns out, they hadn’t tried fixing mine, they just send me a new one as a replacement. While I’m happy to essentially have a new gun, I’m still at a loss for what the problem was. Not sure when I’ll be able to get out a shoot the new one. Got to build up my .308/7.62 plinking stockpile again, since the last few range trips have ran it pretty much dry.

Was it locking back on empty reliably with the ammo that it was having those stoppages with?

Yes, assuming it fed/fired the last round in the magazine, it would lock back no problem. I’ve got a video from my first trip where it twice failed to feed the last round in the mag (simply closed on an empty chamber), but then locked back after be racked and firing that round.

I finally got the replacement Spear out to the range on Wednesday this week. Didn’t put a lot of rounds through it. (80-100) because of the heat, but I didn’t have a single malfunction. It chugged right along through the Winchester/LC and PMC I had. Didn’t have an opportunity to shoot much for accuracy, but hopefully I can do that at a future range trip.

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I look forward to hearing how the new rifle groups after a few hundred rounds.