I am looking to get a Sig Scorpion as I just saw one in person the other day. Overall, the gun looks, feels great…When I think 1911 I do not think of Sig, but these seem to be pretty nice…What is the general consensus here on these guns?
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Last I heard all the parts were tool steel, not mim. That however could have changed for the worse.
Can’t speak to the Scorpion, but I have one of the Sig Blackwater 1911s and have had zero issues with it. It shoots everything I’ve fed it from factory ball to my handload lead SWC. I’ve been happy with my Sig…
I’ve heard good things about the Sig 1911s as well, the fact that they have no MIM parts is a selling point, if that matters to you.
I have only great things to report from my 1st Gen. Sig GSR 1911 as well. With an admittedly low round count, it has been 100% and dead nuts accurate.
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Don’t touch anything new from Sig. Straight from Larry Vickers.
Agreed. The Sig 1911s have improved since their introduction about 7 years ago. However, they are still not a duty ready firearm out of the box.
If you want a duty ready firearm, expect to pay about $1400 that gets you a Les Baer TRS or Springfield / Colt that has some reliability work. If you want a hard use 1911, expect to pay north of $2K for a TRP PRO, Wilson, NH, EB, etc.
BTW, these amounts are what it takes to enter the 1911 game. More money and time will be spent keeping it running.
My GSR had numerous failures to extract and double feeds. I sent it into the factory twice with no change in reliability. Using wwb, and federal ball ammo with Wilson and Novak mags. That was at least 3 years ago so things could have changed. It got traded for a glock 19 very reliable.
No problem with my TACOPS so far.
You need to quantify that statement on this forum. No problems at which classes? No problems for 100 rds? No problems after not adding lube or cleaning for x amount of rounds?
That’s pretty much what Vickers says. He also says other things about 1911s that many people who cannot begin to question his 1911 experience won’t like 
Failed the bucket test…miserably. No thanks.
There’s better choices to be had in the $800-1200 range
Have about 5,000 rounds through my Sig GSR RCS (melted carry, 4.25" barrel, Officer’s grip (7rds)).
At first, would choke up often with WWB, but would run great with Blazer aluminum and brass.
Sent it back to Sig and they replaced the extractor. In about the 500 rds since, it’s choked up once, when I lent it it to a friend to shoot (stovepipe).
I probably should have purchased a S&W 1911 instead.
YMMV.
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The Sig 1911s run well, but I’m not a fan of the shape of their slides or the high prices. S&W 1911s are the bargain right now, but I love a good deal on a lightly used Kimber too.
What’s the story on the newer Sigs? I know Sig has a bad rap these days but all I ever owned myself was one of those surplus P6s and it was great (not relevant to this thread or current gen of Sigs of course).
But the reason I ask is this isn’t the first time I’ve heard that the newer Sigs suck so I tend to believe it, but I ask because I’m deciding between an HK or a Sig for my next CCW piece to replace my Kahr and I’m leaning more and more towards the HK. PM me if you’d like since I’m asking about Sigs quality in general and not specifically about 1911s which is the topic of this thread.
I own a Sig GSR, i bought back in 2009. I am not impressed with it at all. When i first got it it the Novak mags that came with it both broke(craked feed lips, towards the rear of the mag after about 50-80 rounds, it also wouldnt extract shells reliably. Called Sig they sent me two new sig 8 round mags and i bought a couple kimber 8rd mags and a couple Wilson Combat 8 rounders, i found that only the WC mags would work with 8 rounds, the sig mags worked good with 7 rounds, but the pistol would still not extract at least 50 percent of the time. Again i called sig they emailed me a ups mailing label and had me send the gun in, i got it back with in a about week. If i remember right they just replaced the external extractor. The gun worked after that with Wilson Combat mags only,which is ok buy me. i would not even consider this gun it for serious use, it usually begins malfunctioning(double feeds/fte’s) after around 150-200 rounds with out cleaning and properly lubed with either heavy grease or clp. Its a accurate pistol andworks good for me for a USPSA type shooting and a little wannabe high speed 1911 commando plinking but all said and done a pistol i wish i had passed on.
Ok, here is the deal. The SIG 1911 started out as a righteous 1911 program. The very first one’s were as close to a custom pistol at a production price as you will ever see, but that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away when SIG was building quality guns.
Now they value saving a dollar over putting out a quality product that is befitting of their legacy.
It is basically a parts gun. SIG orders parts from different levels of vendors (not really brand name vendors, read here outsourcing) from all over the globe and basically assembles them. There is very little in the way of more then basic fitting. Depending on the quality of the parts that you get it will function fine depending on the tolerance stacking of that particular pistol and those particular parts. If that tolerance stack crosses the threshold due to out of spec parts it will stop working.
The most knowledgeable folks that drove the 1911 program left some time ago leaving folks that will do their best to correct & service their pistol but honestly don’t have all of the experience necessary to truly custom fit it.
It is a game of percentages, if you are using it for range duty or compeition and don’t mind possibly at some point having to send it off to another smith, your call. IF this is for any serious use STOP looking at them. Serious people that have used 1911’s seriously do not have much use for them.
Interesting, thanks for the insight. FWIW the only Sigs I’m interested in are the legacy P22x-series, but the overall quality sounds like a management problem that affects all their products.
I know a couple of guys that run SIG 1911’s in 3-gun. These are high round count guns that didn’t seem anymore problematic than other 1911’s in the $1000 range.
Overall, I’d say SIG has definitely improved their 1911’s since the early days of the GSR.