Saw this on ARFCOM.
http://policelink.monster.com/videos/videos/15618-iraqi-police-vs-suicide-bomber-vehicle.htm
It’s a pretty useful skill to have, glad we drill it so much.
great find. Thanks for posting it.
I don’t know that I’d call what was displayed “skill” – running backwards while looking over the rifle and yanking the trigger. You can see his first round hitting the dirt in front of the car. I only saw one hit on the car, at the top of the front windshield; and right after that one, they go back into the dirt to the left of the car.
He may not have shot accurately on the move, but at least he did move. Had he froze and just kept slapping the trigger he’d be in pieces.
Please re-read what I wrote. I did not attribute skill to this particular shooter. I attributed being able to shoot on the move, as a skill worth having, and would like to thank folks like Pat Rogers, Larry Vickers, Ken Hackathorn, David Pennington, Tom Alibrando, and all the other quality instructors for drilling us on it repetitively.
The video illustrates where this “drill” can come in to play, though most of us will never see a VBIED, we may very well be faced with a car coming at us, and having to shoot on the move in the very same way.
the one hit we do see might very well have smoked the driver… the vbied blows immediately after a round bounces off the hood. being dead, dropping the detonator, prematurely blowing. i seriously doubt a now-vacated checkpoint was the target.
i don’t think you can expect a high degree of accuracy when popping rounds of as fast as you can while retreating as fast as you can. he at least stayed facing the threat, instead of turning tail and booking it. he probably saved lives.
all we can do is speculate.
There’s video floating around of a TN officer that was involved in a shooting during a traffic stop that involved him shooting on the move while backing away from the suspect vehicle. Good reminder of why LEOs need to know how to shoot while moving forward, to the side, and rearward.
most men would have frozen in there tracks and died!
The dude knew what was coming… wanted to get the fuck away and still get some shots off… he did fucking awesome and I don’t think many here including you or I could have done better…
That’s why I was illustrating how valuable the skill is to know when to retreat and shoot AND shoot AND shoot…
I just showed this video to the Iraqis I work with. They said it happened a few years ago in Mosul. Very famous guy, who was later promoted by the Iraqi government for his bravery.
Agreed. All I’m saying is that I think the movement is what saved his life. He certainly wasn’t shooting worth a damn.
Easy now – my commentary was about the video. Nothing personal.
And I don’t. My point being that what was displayed was not “shooting on the move” by any acceptable standard that I’m familiar with. What was displayed was hauling ass, combined with “spray n’ pray”. If he did hit anyone (I didn’t see that he did), it was by luck, not skill.
I guess we now have a performance standard for “fucking awesome” shooting on the move, according to “they”.
What makes him famous?
I would hope it was the video 
WOW great job He did everything he could at max effort and lived :eek:
From the vid it looked like it took out the bunker too.
Great video glad he lived.
I’m taking it easy, you made a statement that was incongruent with my original comment(s).
Let me clarify again that I am not asking for a critique (Monday Morning QB) of this shooter.
I am stating that shooting on the move is a great skill to possess and that it doesn’t come naturally for most people, and expressing thanks for having instructors hammer it home so often.
He didn’t do perfectly, he did get out of the kill radius, and he probably stopped the car from progressing to the actual target. Seemed successful despite unknown accuracy. Unless someone can provide the AAR with detailed ballistics, we can also assume that you can’t see rounds hitting any glass because they were entering the open passenger window and into the driver/passenger. Though again, I challenge anyone who wants to MMQB, negatively, to provide a detailed AAR with ballistics analysis, known round counts, and hit/miss ratio of the engagement. Until that time please refrain from disparaging the shooter, as we just don’t know…
Thanks.
Good to see he wasn’t leaning back and had the right SA. Looks like he was scooting at top speed too.
Another great real-world example, thanks for passing it along.
The video was played on Iraqi TV and they claimed that his actions caused the VBIED to detonate at the check point, rather than the driver going further into the compound. I suspect his shots were enough to convince the driver that he needed to detonate the car before he was killed.
What really made him famous was that he lived through it…
It seems that the vehicle at first heads towards the shooter, then seems to jerk suddenly to the driver’s left after several shots are fired.
My guess is that at least one shot impacted the driver causing to veer and maybe let go of the switch.
Given the time frame, the reaction speed of the guard and the premature detonation of the VBIED I’d say that was pretty good shooting.
Ironic that he’s moving backwards, as most instructors don’t cover this because “you don’t shoot retreating”.