Anyone have any experience/feedback on this UK based sight ? Just ran across it the other day while looking for a low profile red dot for my PPQ/9mm . To me, a big negative is the company is based in the UK and I would guess customer service backup could be a problem.
I have also heard it sometimes has problems in areas of high moisture/rain … but that may just be Internet " facts ". Also looking at the Trijicon RMR , but it mounts a little higher than the Shield , but it is a known quantity and made in the U.S. , which is a big factor for me .
Anyway , just looking now as I have my eye surgery tomorrow and have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to see how it all shakes out before I get any red dot .
I just installed one on a 17 MOS. It seems like a nice piece of gear, but it does not appear to be as robust as a Trijicon. With that said it is much smaller, lighter and cheaper. I have a couple hundred rounds through so far and may try to carry it for duty once I vet it a bit more.
jsrange and others , thanks , this is the feedback Im looking for as I cant find one look at and hold. The attraction for me is light weight and low profile which will hopefully allow me to use the aftermarket sights I just put on the PPQ … Dawson rear and Ameriglo front . Since this gun is an EDC , this looked like it has some promise . They claim they have supplied over 15k of these to the UK Armed forces , so maybe it will hold up .
Ill probably wait several weeks before ordering as I just had my eye surgery today and wont have the bandages off until late tomorrow … the Dr. said my vision will actually get worse for several weeks and then improve . I really hope hes right on that as I dont want to switch to right hand shooting using non dominate left eye if I dont have to . The sight also looks like it can double as a "iron" rear sight because of the notch shown in the picture .... and I have several different height front sights for the "Q" to play with if needed. As an FYI , Walther just came out with a new PPQ already set up for a suppressor and drilled for common red dot sights , but I have to buy another gun , as if thats a problem !
Sorry for any errors in m,y post as I`m still on Tramadole for pain .
I couldn’t find one either so I finally gave up and ordered direct from the manufacturer. They offer the RMS in bundles with the mounting plate for the MOS in either 4 or 8 MOA. Took about a month to get it, they warn you about that on their site. They also offer a LEO discount which I didn’t find out about until after ordering.
Thanks for the feedback. Did you get the 4 or the 8 MOA dot? Heading to the Dr. shortly to have the bandages removed and then have to wait several weeks for the vision in that eye to come back , so I probably wont order one until then . Since I have an astigmatism in that eye , I have some issues with red dots in general. Some work ok and others look like a cluster of grapes . Ill be sending them an e mail asking how this works with an astigmatism. While this surgery won`t correct that problem , hopefully it solved the other issue so the red dot is usable .
If you can , let me know how it is doing … thanks !
I went with the 4 MOA. I also have astigmatism and do see the star pattern around the dot, but not always. Even with the fuzziness, with the smaller 4 MOA, its not bad at all. It should be noted that I am not wearing the correct contacts for my astigmatism and I have not updated my prescription in several years, so I expect that it will be much better when I do.
There are some good deals on the Trijicon nowadays, but I went with the RMS because I think its just a better fit with the MOS and should be strongly considered for people in a position where they may not be able to alter their slide. The biggest benefit is that it sits low enough that you don’t need suppressor sights and the mount is thin, but still very secure. I have heard issue of the Trijicon mount on the MOS shooting loose after several hundred rounds and needed frequent tightening. What you may give up in water resistance is offset in the ease of battery changes. I tried to help this out by using some petroleum jelly around the gaps. With that said, the jury is still out on the durability of the RMS and you will be signing on as a beta tester if you get one.
Seal plate usually takes care of any flicker I have seen. Someone mentioned using batteries with thicker collars (Panasonic) helps as well on another thread, sounds like a good idea, but I haven’t tested it.
blue tint is a non issue for most, including myself.
co-witness is subjective.
All I am saying is the reviews so far on these by anyone who uses dots full-time, or are SME on red dots on handguns, they are no go for anything more than a range plinker.
This is a neat idea, but I would wait to see how they hold up if you’re using it on a defensive handgun. I could t find any water resistance claims, so that kind of set off alarms. I may not be swimming out of torpedo tubes, but I’ve sure as shit been soaked to the bones in some storms. Last thing I need is to have my primary sighting system go down due to water.
They do offer some nice features. The fact that it sits flush with the sides of the gun is nice. Battery replacement without removal is awesome. Just a little bit of maturity and they will be pretty darned good.
Our agency got one of the 4 moa models for test and evaluation. Came with mounting plate and two batteries.
We tested this on a GLOCK 17 MOS. Everyone who shot this weapons system really tightened their groups, especially from 25-50 yards.
The biggest advantage of this sight is the fact it will work with factory sights (which that expense we would have to consider), small, lightweight and very durable.
We shot over 10,000 rounds with a variety of different shooters without any malfunctions.
We did have to re-tighten the screws as we did not locktite it because it was a T&E setup.
With the evaluation, we have or are in the process of approving these for off duty carry.
We will be looking to going to the MOS models in the future but the only .40 cal they make is the 35. We issue both 9mm and .40, choice of the deputy. GLOCK 35 are issued to SWAT and they may be the first ones we issue to.
Sure, there are more robust, expensive sights, but the Shield seems to fit our requirements.
Good luck.
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Ordered one from Brownells, with their low profile mounting plate. I have five hundred rounds through it, with no flaws. With the low profile mounting plate, you can co-witness with oem sights. It works for me.
Been running a 4 moa Shield (with low profile mount) on my Glock 41 for a month, having put 300-400 rounds through it. Optic has been solid with no issues relating to moisture or durability or anything else for that matter.
The only issue I’ve noted has been shooter related…learning to use an optic as opposed to standard pistol sights, after shooting fixed sights for 30+ years.
I now have several hundred (a lot for me) through my 17 MOS with Shield now with no problems so far. I like it, but its my first optic so I having nothing to reference for comparison. For me, speed hasn’t really improved at closer ranges, but where it really shines is longer range precision.