Pretty simple if you could only have one would you take a semi-auto 308 or would you rather have a bolt gun 300wm/338lm
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Easy day & it is simple.
LaRue OBR / KAC ECC / LMT308MWSF / LM8MWSF
In that order or any order?
Depends on what I wanted to do with it.
Not that I’ve ever ventured into this realm, but from what I’ve heard from a good friend, I’d just take a GAP-10.
I prefer 7.62 auto guns (for preference see signature 
) over bolt guns. While they are more expensive, they can be as precise as needed within the effective envelope of 7.62, and offer flexibility in application that bolt guns simply can’t approach. That being said, there are not a whole lot of then that can deliver both the precision and reliability that I want.
Just as he said. I like semi auto over bolt guns. The accuracy can be just as good in a semi 7.62. Not to mention higher mag capacity also.
I see no reason to run a .308 bolt gun over a gas gun .308. My self and my partner both run semi auto 16" .308’s in the team matches we shoot, and have never made the comment “man, I wish we had been running bolt guns”.
I am a fan of bolt guns in long action calibers, but many of the modern gas guns shoot just as well as a bolt gun with higher mag capacity and providing rapid follow up shots.
FWIW, my shooting partner runs a 16" obr and I run a 16" .308 lmt mws most of the time but I have recently started working with 6.5cm which pushes the envelop even further.
OK thanks guys. What if the bolt gun was a 338 lapua. Would you still opt for the semi-auto 308 platform?
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At this point in my shooting career, I’d rather have a self loading 308 than a bolt action 300 WM or 338 Lapua.
Both the 300 and the 338 will out range the 308, but at an increased cost in both the price of ammo and recoil. They potentially will be more costly in optics as higher magnification will really let the shooter stretch the legs of those two calibers.
For precision shooting, I’d weigh carefully between the 308 and the 260 Remington or 6.5 Creedmore. The 308 has the option of cheaper plinker ammo (but it’s a precision rifle, right? Feed it good ammo) and may be easier to find. The 260 & 6.5 have lighter bullets with better BCs for less recoil and longer range
It really depends on your uses/purpose. A 338 has very different capabilities and limitations. If you are just starting long range, many suggest starting with 308 for various factors. Search for the 308 vs 338 topic, and you might get more information that you are looking for.
OK will do thanks again guys!
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Mission drives the gear. The apogee on a .308 is different than a .338.
In summation to answer your question yes. I would still take a .308 over .338 for utility & ubiquity of applications.
Depends on your mission or needs. For anything under 600 yards I would take the .308 auto. Over that and I would prefer a bolt gun.
Pat
That’s a true sniper suite, choose based off mission/needs priorities.
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Easy choice. I’d take my GAP-10.
I am not experienced with long range precision shooting but if my accuracy requirement was achieved for whatever distance I was shooting at, why would anyone pick a bolt gun over a semi-auto?
Auto. Not even a choice. I spent 2 tours in Iraq in a scout/sniper platoon. During the Invasion, we only had access to M24s (Remington 700 in 308). I couldn’t tell you how many times we wished for a semi-auto because 95% of engagements were under 300 meters and usually required quick follow up shots. This is much easier when you only have to reset your trigger as opposed to racking a bolt.
During my 2nd tour in Ramadi, our arsenal greatly increased. We has both M21’s (aka M14 with optics) and various 308 semi-auto’s. Not once did I take out a bolt gun rather than one of the 20 round 308’s…
The theory that bolt guns are more accurate is true but reality is that any quality gun out there will outperform the vast majority of people shooting it. You will do more than fine with a semi-auto.
Agreed!
That having been said, I have a soft spot for my 6.5 Grendel recce. AR15 form factor, weight, and ergos, which to me are big plusses. 123gr SST or Amax for long range precision stuff (mostly sihouettes/steel plates out to 800 yards), 120MPT for plinking soda bottles and clay pigeons. Match ammo is $22/20 and the Wolf brass-cased 120MPT is $14/20. You can get Hornady and Lapua brass for handloading.
For me, a bolt gun can be a blast to shoot. There is something very satisfying about being able to operate a bolt gun smoothly and quickly. In addition, guys who handload are much happier with how bolt guns treat brass vs. semiautos. Of course, I’m just shooting paper and steel, so YMMV.
On a slightly different note, what do you guys think about George Gardner’s (that’s the guy who owns the company that builds GAP-10s) recommendation that suppressors are best left to bolt guns? http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3871781
His opinion seems fine for what it is. A technical look at suppression of sniper rifles and semi-auto rifles, and how it pertains to their cleanliness.
That being said it has little bearing on whether or not to pick a semi-auto or a bolt gun, and generally, this forum is not overly concerned with cleanliness of guns as long as proper function and accuracy are maintained.