Sell/Trade my M&P 45 mid for HK45c?

General Firearms Handguns - Semi Auto
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So, I’ve put about 500 rds down my M&P and think it’s a fine handgun. It’s accurate, dependable…no issues of any kind. It’s the only Smith I own in semi auto. I love my Hk’s but don’t have one in 45 acp yet.

I guess I’m wondering who’s owned or currently owns both…what can I expect? Aside from obvious differences, striker vs. hammer…and the different trigger variants in HK…I prefer Hk’s DA/SA with decocker.

Purpose: Possible carry but nothing beats my P7 with Del Fatti. Otherwise, nightstand and range fun.

Again, thanks for everyone’s insight.

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I say go for it. I really love the HKs in .45.

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Funny, I’m thinking of doing the opposite for brand/model consolidation.

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Really? Hmmmm…interesting. HK45c for M&P 45? Just for consolidation or is there something you like more about the M&P vs. HK?

What variant are you running through the HK?

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Do it! HK makes an AWESOME .45!!!

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If I were to do it again I would do the HK .45 with a LEM trigger. The M&P was a great gun, other then the trigger.

I owned a p30 for a bit with the LEM and loved it, but had to go back to the company glock because I wanted to be a firearms instructor. If I had my choice I would get an HK45, an HK45c and a P30 all in LEM and call it good.

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If you prefer a DA/SA trigger over a striker fired weapon (I do too), then get the HK.

Personally, I would chose any H&K over an M&P.

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I have both. Love the accuracy, reliability and quality of the HK45C, but on the timer, shoot the M&P 45 mid-size substantially better. With the HK LEM trigger, I find support hand only shooting more difficult due to the longer travel of the LEM trigger. Reloads are much faster with the M&P. I think the HK with LEM is a better winter gun with gloves.

If I was going to a match I would want the M&P, but if I was going to war, I would take the HK 45C.

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I’m actually trying to do the vary same thing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the m&p45c, but I really want to try the Hk 45c or the usp45c with the v9 plate. I originally came from the 1911, then because of price and constant maintenance I decided to try the “plastic” Gun’s. I carry a g19 now but I miss the cocked&locked carry of a 1911. And the Smith with thumb safety just doesn’t cut it.

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I have had both the H&K with LEM trigger and the M&P 45 mid. I sold the H&K. I added the APEX kit to the M&P and as much as I love H&K, you can’t beat the 45 mid with apex kit. Trigger is better and ergos are better the M&P is also 2 rounds up on the H&K. There are some threads on this very subject.

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I carry an HK45CT as my EDC pistol in a Raven kydex holster. It came with the DA/SA trigger but I had HK put in the light LEM trigger, as that is what my P2000SK has also. I find it’s one of the best shooting pistols I’ve ever shot, and it’'s easy to conceal. I’ve shot the S&W M&P and really like it also. In fact, it’s probably my next pistol to purchase. Here in NM, the Albuquerque PD just went to the M&P in 9mm and the state police carry it in .357 Sig. That said, I much prefer the HK to it. Of course, that’s simply my opinion and not right or wrong. Others like the M&P, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that pistol either. The bottom line is, at least for me, that I would trust my life to either pistol. Good luck with your decision.

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I will preface this with I don’t like DA/SA triggers

I’ve had all the pistols In question here…the hk45c with and without the light LEM…and the M&P 45 mid with and without the apex

I don’t think the hk beats the mp with the apex in any category, except price…the m&p is just as accurate, I ha net had any reliability issues with either, maintenance on the M&P is easier

Having said that, variety is the spice of life…if it’s what you want go for it

Why not keep the M&P and get the h&k and them decide which you like better? Honestly if you can afford the $1000 pistol it won’t hurt you to hold onto the m&p for longer

The hk is a great gun…but it isn’t any better a tool than the M&P…if it’s a tool you use better than it’s worth the extra money

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Never had a M&P but have a few HK’s. My HKc is just unreal i went with it over the HK since i plan to carry it and its a good bit smaller to only loose 2 rds. Plus you can buy HKc 10rd mags and use one as a spare or nighstand gun also. Go for it, good luck…BTW never had a LEM i started HK long before LEM and i prefer DA/SA with safeties also…

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I think trio’s answer above is spot-on. I have a P-2000,(9mm) with a light LEM, It’s always been reliable, and accurate. However, in my case, I’ve never been able to get used to the long trigger pull of the HK, even after lots of dry fire practice, and a couple thousand rounds of ammo. For me, to shoot the P-2000 well, I really have to concentrate. I also have a midsize .45 with a Apex DCAEK installed,For whatever reason I shoot the .45 better than the 9mm. After checking out another midsize with a Apex FSS installed, that’s where I’m going next. IMO, a m&p.45 set up like that, with decent NS would be very difficult to beat. Accuracy wise, everything I’ve read leads me to believe that they’re both(HK45c M&P.45mid) pretty evenly matched. My own experiences with it, have shown it(M&P) to be very accurate, head shots on some cardboard IDPA targets at 25yds are done without alot problems, (Not that that means alot, but it does to me,when I did this a couple of weeks ago, that was the first time I’d shot the M&P in about 6 months,as I’d been concentrating on the P-2000) The downside here is,(provided you decided to go this route in the first place)by the time you install the FSS, and possibly/probably change out the factory sights, you’ll have as much invested in the m&p as what a HK would cost…The upside,is the pistol would be finished,and should need nothing but shot…alot. The HK comes with those oddball “glow in the dark” night sights,which need to asorb light from another light source to get them to glow. Most people pull them off and throw in the trash, and get something decent. Should you decide to get a trigger job for it, For God’s sake, Don’t sent it to Springfield…He’s cheap, but, you get what you pay for. Bruce Gray at Greyguns is the best for Hk trigger work, He’s not cheap, but then again, you won’t be sending your HK back to HK to have hammer sear, etc, replaced after your pistol decided to start doubling after a few hundred rounds, either.
As Trio said, why not keep them both? That would give you a unique opportunity to compare them both side by side,and see which one YOU like…Frankly as much as I like HK’s, I can’t justify the prices for them, I’ll probably keep my P-2000, I know I can shoot it reasonably well and it’s accurate and reliable, very well made, I’m just not a DA/SA person.

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I had both the M&P 45 and HK45 for two years. I loved the HK45, but in the end found that the HK45 offered nothing to me that an M&P 45 with Bowie sights, DCAEK, and safety did not. The M&P was lighter, more concealable, just as accurate, easier to maintain, had a larger aftermarket, and was significantly less expensive. I also found that the M&P was faster and handled better (in my hand) in drills involving speed. Take a look back at Hilton Yam’s review. It is spot on. At this point, I have consolidated on the M&P platform. In .45 ACP, the M&P in the above configuration really does everything that I could ask a handgun to do.

If you’re anything like me, though, you’ll have to own them both for a time and see for yourself.

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I’m basically finding the same thing. I love my HK 45 and after ToddG’s tests on the HK’s I have a P30L LEM and a 45. But with my M&P 45 set up with the apex kit and Ameriglo sights, I think it is a better deal. I don’t know if I can bring my self to sell the HK’s though, I like appendix carry better with a hammer fired gun. I did switch the mag release on the M&P to the right side so I can use my trigger finger to drop the mag like the HK’s, which seems to work really well for me.

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Lots of good stuff here guys. Thanks a lot for all your input. I must confess…I did a pretty thorough review of both the M&P and HK when I initially was looking for a new 45acp. The reviews slightly favored M&P but not substantially enough in any particular area. What it boiled down to for me was I could save $400.00 going M&P. I couldn’t justify the extra money at the time.

They are two different trigger systems…I for one prefer DA/SA.

With that being said, I may, as some have suggested, keep the M&P and buy the HK45c. It would be a nice oppurtinity to compare the two myself and then decide. I was hoping the use the M&P for trade bait as to help absorb the extra cost…we’ll see.

Thanks everyone.

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I was on the fence between a regular HK45c and a MP45c myself for a long time because I was never sure the HK45c was worth the extra $400-500. Then I found a very lightly used UPS 45c on consignment with 5 mags for about a hundred dollars more than a brand new MP. Since there were only small differences between the HK45c and the USP went ahead and got it on faith. I can say that I’m happy with the purchase.

I have a MP40FS with thumb safety, APEX DCAEK and really like the way it feels in my hand and shoots. The only complaint I have is that the safety can be too easily engaged. I found myself engaging the safety sometimes when doing drills until I forced myself to present with thumb over safety. The MP is the only pistol I’ve ever had with that problem. On the HK I have to make a conscious effort to engage the safety and I prefer the da/sa. I know some people say there is no need for a thumb safety on pistols like the MP but I like having the option.

One thing i found out after making the purchase is that the USP will supposedly shoot 45 supers out of the box. Don’t know if that matters to you or not.

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oops!

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The HK45c is going to be more trouble-free over the long haul, in my experience.