Why in the world would a new business owner say “no” to a photo op with the Vice President of the United States?
McMurray said it was President Obama’s recent remarks about small business and who built what.
“Very simply, ‘you didn’t build that’” McMurray said. “Speaking of small businesses and entrepreneurs all across this country and actually last night my wife was up all night. No sleep, she’s worked a full 24 hours.”
[W]e’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ – the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ''Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ – then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.
McMurray refused to host the Biden entourage as a protest of Obama’s comment, made in the nearby town of Roanoke, that “if you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that.”
The Secret Service’s purchase proved to be a herald of things to come, as Virginia locals rewarded McMurray with a rush of business this morning. The bakery ran out of food by 1:15 pm.
If true, that is the most unprofessional thing I’ve ever heard. How can anybody find something enjoyable about this? I don’t care what your politics are; the organization that protects the president and vice president absolutely cannot weigh in on partisan politics. When acting in an official capacity, the agents must be completely apolitical. Offering tacit support for any political statement, entity, or position, is completely unacceptable.
Having said that, I greatly doubt that the accounts given are an accurate portrayal of what happened.
either some people are being setup ?
or they are human and have feelings etc… and/or who knows
I had a buddy who years ago who was one of the Marines at the white house ? not sure his role never asked him much about it other than he got moved from his position cause he got in a fight at a local bar and he was no SS just a marine guard from my understanding and he said he was under a microscope the whole time so cant think these guys who are SS are/would be allowed to get away with this kinda behavior and also on top of all of it that they are the type not to act professionally and are above all this so it would never come into question in the first place ?
but who knows ? I sure dont and doubt anyone who does would say anything
maybe maybe not ? maybe the baker wanted some press and got it ? maybe not ?
we will never know
If you don’t see something very wrong with the agency that protects the presidency getting involved in political infighting, then you’re fucking delusional and too blinded by your own political inclinations to think at a level above full fucking retard. Just because you happen to agree with the politics doesn’t make it right. Imagine if this story was about a vice president that you supported. Only a full on idiot could be too small minded to step outside their own bias and see the obvious problem here.
Firstly, I can guarantee you the story is wishful thinking.
Secondly, I was simply pointing out your exaggeration. I am in no way defending such an act were it actually the case.
Right, that must be why you had the cool-guy sunglasses by the thread title before the edit. But oh heavens no, you’re in no way defending it. Cool story bro.
And name an action that could classify as “unprofessional” that is more unprofessional than the SS getting involved in political bickering.
(In before conspiracy theories. Doesn’t count. If true, those would count as TREASONOUS, not unprofessional. “Most unprofessional” deals with the extent to which an act is unprofessional. And there is nothing in the realm of professionalism more egregious than the SS maligning the VP they’re sworn to protect.)
Here’s the back story, we’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ – the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ''Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ – then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.
This paragraph is garbage.
First off Secret Service is capitalized. This mistake kinda makes the author seem like they don’t really know what they are writing about, and I don’t really trust local news authors all that much to begin with.
Secondly…if you’ve seen a bunch of pictures of Secret Service guys who are part of protection details they don’t exactly wear uniforms and badges…so where’s the proof they were actually Secret Service protection guys? Prior to this the article mentioned Biden’s ‘entourage’ coming in which implies it’s not just Secret Service guys, and who’s the source who can distinguish who’s who in a pile of people?
I don’t want to stray too far from what I do know but maybe someone else can answer…during elections when candidates are jumping from one place to another are the details all SS or do they augment with other Federal agencies? I can’t imagine SS keeps enough staff around when once every 4 years we have an election, and these guys are playing pin the dot on a map.
This story may still be true…but not likely given the evidence.
I do agree the Secret Service should not be partisan, and why I could never do that job. Hats off to those who can and do that job.
PS: Its always a good idea to search the name of the author of the article. This guy Salinas seems like a no name guy who’s jumped around from one channel to another. Not exactly the most trust worthy source.
If it is, this action combined with the Colombian hooker scandal means that some serious house cleaning/priority realignment is long overdue.
I’m with a0cake on this one, an organization meant to provide protection to our nation’s political leaders getting involved in petty political squabbles is not good. It is the open door to very ungood things.
There is a Uniformed Division to the SS that primarily guards the WH grounds, but also provides bomb detection, counter snipers, etc. when POTUS travels. This could be the SS agents that the author mentions.
Other federal agencies are involved in POTUS travels - especially when it involves large events like the DNC Convention and inaugurations. For example, the FBI HRT has been (and will likely continue to be) available for such events.
Is it possible for you to tactfully disagree with someone? Or must you always lob insults in your signature $10 word-laden rants designed to make everyone think you’re a sophisticated intellectual? (which has the opposite effect)
I removed that because I could see the sarcastic use of that emoticon eluded you. Figured it would be best to curb such mistaken responses, especially since you’re intent on going full-retard about it.
I did not alter a single word of my actual post, which you might note does not contain an opinion, it is simply reporting an interesting news event. So that’s correct, I’m not defending what the Service may have done (but likely did not).
Well, call me old fashioned but I seem to remember the actions of a particular President who was partial to a White House intern as being just a little more unprofessional than the alleged statements of these USSS agents. Specifically, this President allowed said intern (who was 30-years his junior) into the Oval Office to lay slobber upon his knobber - on several different occasions. On at least one of those occasions, he made phone calls from the Oval Office in his official capacity as POTUS while said intern gave him oral pleasure. On another rendezvous, our hero whitewashed the intern in such a manner that her blue dress became a national spectacle. Not wanting to be considered selfish, Mr. President reciprocated the intern’s efforts by pleasuring her with a cigar cover while she assumed the dorsal lithotomy position on the Oval Office desk (rumors have it that the Presidential planning pad still has a strange odor). I’ll stop there since the fallout of these actions resulted in additional unprofessional actions on both sides of the political spectrum that mired the country in gridlock for the better part of 2 years.
Yep, all this seems a little more unprofessional than anything the USSS might have SAID to the owner of a bakery.
Here’s the back story, we’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ – the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ''Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ – then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.
I think you guys are reading way more into this than was there. First off it’s an edited and unfinished quote.
The SS guy could have simply come back and said thanks, we appreciate your being honest with us, it makes our job much easier and safer for everyone.
I see nothing at all wrong with that. In fact the SS guy could have easily been an Obama supporter as well. Certainly no comparison to the hooker scandal.
I don’t trust national news authors much either. Distortion, selective reporting, and outright fabrication are common. Dan Rather and Brian Ross come to mind.
No, it’s impossible for him. His shit don’t stink, it smells of petunias and roses. He’s never wrong and he’s the king of the net. The ignore list works perfect for dicks like him.
For those who have never been on a detail like this, I’ll tell you these dudes/dudettes are 110% dedicated to the protection of the POTUS/VPOTUS and their families. But remember this, they are humans. They all have opinions. It is what it is, opinions. Those opinions do not make them less effective at their jobs. For any of you to say they shouldn’t be allowed to have those opinions…that’s just idiocy!
Belmont,
The only time I’ve seen uniformed SS guys is when I got pulled for details in DC. Other than that, it was suits and ties. Many local/state LE are augmented for additional support among others. That’s all I’ll say.