SCOTUS rules unanimously on asset seizure/excessive fines

"Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, on just her second day back on the bench after undergoing cancer surgery in December, announced the decision for the court, saying that the 8th Amendment’s Excessive Fines Clause protects against government retribution.

“For good reason, the protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history: Exorbitant tolls undermine other constitutional liberties,” Ginsburg wrote. “Excessive fines can be used, for example, to retaliate against or chill the speech of political enemies . . . Even absent a political motive, fines may be employed in a measure out of accord with the penal goals of retribution and deterrence.”

"Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in a recent opinion that civil forfeitures have “become widespread and highly profitable.”

“This system — where police can seize property with limited judicial oversight and retain it for their own use — has led to egregious and well-chronicled abuses,” Thomas wrote, referring to reporting by The Washington Post and the New Yorker."

RGB is back.

Asset seizure and excessive fines takes a hit.

Read more here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-says-constitutional-protection-against-excessive-fines-applies-to-state-actions/2019/02/20/204ce0d4-3522-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.9e170dbd8816

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If I understand the decision correctly, though, this is definitely a win for freedom.

Use the incog feature of your browser if it has one. I would agree with the win for freedom.

One step forward, two steps back…

What’s the downside here? This puts gun/ammo taxes (and other “sin taxes”) and red flag laws on questionable ground.

[/QUOTE][QUOTE=fledge;2709964]What’s the downside here? This puts gun/ammo taxes (and other “sin taxes”) and red flag laws on questionable ground.

I’m guessing here, but perhaps he is referencing RBG being back on the bench…?

I’m all for this ruling and don’t see a downside to it. That it was unanimous, gives a glimmer of hope for Liberty.

Exactly. I see that you are are thinking big picture… NICE!

I wonder how The Witch would feel if we seized the property of all illegal aliens before deporting them? These are all ill-gotten assets.

There is no downside to this ruling. Score one for We the People.

Good ruling.

Time to put many corrupt LEO agencies in their place.

Long overdue, no one steals like the government.

Bet NJ Democrats are squirming. Not only did they make felons of magazine possessors but SCOTUS just asked them why they shouldn’t look at more of their current draconian laws.

Should have to return the seized assets, à la bumpstocks.

Yep, along with cash, vehicles etc.

This could pretty much bankrupt some departments. Which is good, because they were no better than criminals themselves.

I see this as nothing but a win for the people. Yeah, it would be nice if old RGB would retire and call it a day, but this decision does not suck.

Politicians and government employees are a crime gang

I’m always happy to see government theft being curbed.

The issue is no DA/LE agency is going to interpret this ruling as meaning they have to stop seizing stuff.

So it is business as usual.

I have a feeling that a majority of seizure cases are going to be upheld until there is more precedent from the Circuit Courts. They could’ve mitigated that somewhat by saying that the seizure of the Land Rover in this case was excessive, but they punted.

Yes, they’ll keep stealing stuff from people. But when those people take those PDs to court they have a much better chance of winning.

Eventually PDs will learn its not worth their time to try to steal from people as the court will give it back.