So what he’s saying is that he still wants socialized medicine, just not the current version. Oh, ok, that’s what he meant when he said he’d be the 41st vote to stop health care reform. Got it.
What I heard from that clip is: campaigning is over, I am elected, here is where I really stand. I guess at this point a lot of people are on edge about this health care debacle, and even a vague indication of him turn coating is going to cause concern that they got duped again.
No universal health care, that was the deal, that’s why 78% of your voters elected you. By saying “bring it back to the drawing board” and “offer a basic plan for everybody” doesn’t sit well with me.
Am I wrong in my thought process? Reassure me, please. Hopefully I am just interpreting this wrong.
“I think everyone should have healthcare.” and “The government should make everyone have healthcare, even if the taxpayers have to pay for others.” are not equivalent statements.
Healthcare reform legislation could include things like allowing healthcare companies to sell outside gov’t defined regions, might include medical tort reform, could include tax breaks to incentivize people to buy health insurance of those that don’t currently have it, etc.
Even those things were not mentioned. I think everyone should have health insurance who wants to have it. I also think that the costs are completely out of control due to the game the doctors are playing with the insurance companies, and the methodology of the pricing insurance companies impose on the doctors.
I also believe everyone who wants insurance should have it. I’m not in the same camp as Pelosi and Reid because of that statement.
I’m against the Democrats healthcare bill but let’s play with a little political reality. If Brown comes out too far to the “right” his seat will stay in Republican hands for exactly 3 years. He’s got to play savvy here. Fuck, we should be happy to have an NRA A-rated Senator from Mass (Where I lived most of my life). I mean seriously, what are the odds of that?
there is a difference between fixing healthcare, which needs to be done, and the democrats proposed “solution”…
Tort reform has been touted for a while, and with little understanding, it seems to be the easiest way to go, with the possibility of going back if it fails. The proposed system is a one way street, there is no going back.
Good point. I am on the West coast, so I only know what I’ve heard and read in the MSM re: Brown. It seems to me that just about any GOP pol is going to say that they favor SOME KIND of reform. IMO that means, but is not limited to, med-mal reform, reviewing mandates, increasing portability etc. I doubt that any republican is going to come out and say “I don’t think everybody should have access to healthcare. I want things to be even more expensive. The status quo rocks!” or anything.
Republicans’ Common-Sense Reforms Will LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS
Americans want a step-by-step, common-sense approach to health care reform, not Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s costly, 1,990-page government takeover of our nation’s health care system. Republicans’ alternative solution focuses on lowering health care premiums for families and small businesses, increasing access to affordable, high-quality care, and promoting healthier lifestyles – without adding to the crushing debt Washington has placed on our children and grandchildren. Following are the key elements of Republicans’ alternative plan:
• Lowering health care premiums. The GOP plan will lower health care premiums for American families and small businesses, addressing Americans’ number-one priority for health care reform.
• Establishing Universal Access Programs to guarantee access to affordable health care for those with pre-existing conditions. The GOP plan creates Universal Access Programs that expand and reform high-risk pools and reinsurance programs to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses, have access to affordable care – while lowering costs for all Americans.
• Ending junk lawsuits. The GOP plan would help end costly junk lawsuits and curb defensive medicine by enacting medical liability reforms modeled after the successful state laws of California and Texas.
• Prevents insurers from unjustly cancelling a policy. The GOP plan prohibits an insurer from cancelling a policy unless a person commits fraud or conceals material facts about a health condition.
• Encouraging Small Business Health Plans. The GOP plan gives small businesses the power to pool together and offer health care at lower prices, just as corporations and labor unions do.
• Encouraging innovative state programs. The GOP plan rewards innovation by providing incentive payments to states that reduce premiums and the number of uninsured.
• Allowing Americans to buy insurance across state lines. The GOP plan allows Americans to shop for coverage from coast to coast by allowing Americans living in one state to purchase insurance in another.
• Promoting healthier lifestyles. The GOP plan promotes prevention & wellness by giving employers greater flexibility to financially reward employees who adopt healthier lifestyles.
• Enhancing Health Savings Accounts (HSAs). The GOP plan creates new incentives to save for current and future health care needs by allowing qualified participants to use HSA funds to pay premiums for high deductible health insurance.
• Allowing dependents to remain on their parents’ policies. The GOP plan encourages coverage of young adults on their parents’ insurance through age 25.
The tired old “Republicans have no ideas” meme is getting tired. If one took the time to listen, one would have a pretty good sense of the ideas that the GOP favors. The devil is in the details, of course, but at least the ideas seem sound and many (but not all, I guess) are based on market-driven solutions.
He did vote for the “universal” healthcare that exists in MA BTW. He’s not quite as against it as some may think, but he’s still better then the alternative.
It was my understanding that the majority of cost increases in health insurance stem from the actions by the Federal and State governments designed to do exactly that - increase costs.
Limit competition - there are only a handfull of insurers per state instead of hundreds
Require conditions to be covered by law. For example the Lupis Foundation goes to congress and says “we think all lupis and lupis-related costs should be covered by insurers.” So it becomes law. The 99.9% of people who don’t have lupis now have to pay for the increased costs of covering the .01% that do
Regulation related staff costs - in the form of paperwork. Have you ever noticed how many jobs there are for “medical coding” in the paper? Have you ever noticed how many people are sitting behind a desk at the doctor’s office now compared to 20 years ago? That’s because they have to have a staff now just to deal with all of the insurance and government regulations paperwork
Tort law - we all know how many junk lawsuits there are and how they drive costs up
So now that the government has driven costs through the roof, what is their solution? Let them run it. Brilliant.
Exactly. He said he was against the Healthcare Bill in it’s current form. He repeatedly stated that it needed to be redone from scratch - not done away with. People only heard what they wanted to hear.
we already have socialized medicine, what do you think the illegals use, look at California there broke, the hospitals birth there babies, we give them subsidized housing, anyone can go to the hospital in my county and get treatment they may get a bill, but it’s not required that you pay our have insurance for treatment, property tax money goes to the hospital district for indigent care? To me that’s socialized medicine.
He is certainly not small government conservative but look what state he comes from. A conservative is not going to win there. So we got the best possible outcome, and he is a far sight better than Coakley which would have rubber stamped Obamacare among other liberal topics.
Not to mention it pisses the progressives off to no end, and it lowers their opinion of Obama because he could not get their health care passed. Now something more moderate will have to come about. But people will hopefully remember what Obama wanted, and that he was just forced to take something more moderate not because he wanted to.