Anybody know whats going on? Just came across this link and thought it was interesting…
I’m certainly not shocked.
eta…somewhere on here there is some reports about random POI shift as well.
Not likely but maybe it will make the price drop a little ![]()
I was really hoping that the SCAR 17 would prove to be a viable platform upgrade from the current selection of US weapon systems.
In fact I was saving up for one… now I think I will wait. ![]()
There is nothing wrong with SCAR L or H. Its biggest obstacle right now is budget cuts and no perceived need for it, but there is. SCAR was designed to be the AK of the modern assault rifle, where it really shines is in resource poor environments were you may not have access to regular weapons cleaning equipment. Now I love my M4 but she likes to be run wet, alot more so than a SCAR needs.
Also keep in mind that the us military has a not so hot track record when it comes to selecting the best weapon for the Soldier/Marine
The SCAR has had a few issues, the biggest of which is that SOCOM didn’t get the rifle they were really wanting.
The benefits of the SCAR have nothing to do with cleaning, but rather armorer support and parts commonality through the program.
We actually did a pretty good job of selecting a weapon that meets a requirement, with the SCAR, there are a few problems:
1- Meeting a requirement document is different than meeting a need.
2- HK did not submit the 416/417
3- Even if they did, the 417 most likely would not have made it, and unlike today where the 5.56 gun is redundant and unnecesssary, if the 416/417 got the nod, the 416 would still be redundant and the 417 would have been shelved long ago.
FWIW- lots of dudes are pretty fond of the H. As in: dudes down range turning booger eaters into worm-food. Bestest ever? No. Servicable? Seems to be. Longevity? Unknown.
All good points above. With any luck I will be adding one to my inventory very soon.![]()
interesting I have not heard any of this stuff. Kind of back door info from guys on the ground. I live in NY so I have never even seen a SCAR, so I guess I’m not to upset its not taking off like they planed.
Don’t know if you are talking about optics or lasers, but it is a known fact that the SCAR has been known to destroy electronics.
C4
I haven’t heard this one. Is it the piston that’s doing it?
The easiest way to explain it is that the gun has two energy waves moving through it. Most times they never collide, but when they do, it destroys the laser for sure and sometimes the optic.
It is my understanding that the SCAR gets fielded with two lasers because of this issue.
C4
Well that can get pretty expensive. I guess the 416 doesn’t do this?
Damn magical firearms!
No, but really, please explain what you mean. I realize there is recoil in a discharging firearm… but… what’s the other energy wave?
I miss SeinfeinM1911
Not that I am aware of, but the 416 has its own issues.
C4
From how it has been stated to me, the monolithic upper design coupled with a polymer lower creates some weird energy waves in the gun. Basically, one wave is going in one direction and another wave is going in the opposite direction. IMHO, the second energy wave is coming from the piston system.
C4
It very well may be tied to the optics Grant, is it you that had seen RTZ mounts during recoil captured with a hi speed camera?
Yes, I have seen FN’s hi-speed video test of a SCAR shooting and the RTZ mount “Sliding” all over the place.
C4
Ouch. Really>? That is not good news at all for those that care about bullet placement. ![]()