I think I must have missed something in the NFA Handbook sticky -
If I have a stripped lower from a major manufacturer and I complete a Form 1 for it -
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Do I have to have it engraved?
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With what? My name and location?
Thank you in advance
YES…and correct me if i’m wrong…but you should recieve an intsruction paper when you recieve your tax stamp #.
It will have all the info you need on it, ie. what it needs to say EXACTLY, depth of the ingraving, etc…etc…
EDIT I found this HERE
“…must mark the receiver of the
weapon with the maker’s name and city and state. …”
Ok I found this:
Or you can make any NFA weapon…, Additionally the manufacturer of any NFA weapon, including an individual making one on a Form 1 must mark the receiver of the weapon with the maker’s name and city and state.
Where can I find info on type set, type size, engraving depth and type? (I am trying to see if I can get this done locally with a vendor that does industrial laser engraving).
Thank you
The info must be stamped or engraved to .003" deep and must be on a part of the firearm that is visible without any disassembly.
There is no type or size requirement (there is for the serial number: 1/16" high), but it must be “legible.”
I have an appointment with my local BATF agent this friday @ 0800, will post after. (I want the official info too!)
The preliminary info is…it depends on whether you are going to buy a registered SBR and have it transfered to you, or YOU will yourself be the manufacturer. I will let you know…
Get it done before you get the stanmp back. Once it is in your possession, it is no longer a Title 1 weapon and makes sending it in to get done MUCH more challenging.
I suggets Orion Tactical…2 week turn around, nice work!
You will recieve only your approved stamp,no info on how to mark the weapon comes with it…
Read section 7.4 in this link…
http://customworks-dsm.com/Documents/nfafirearms_manufacturing.pdf
Gentlemen - thank you all.
Just got back from my meeting and this all assumes you’ll be filling out a form 1:
The answer is…If you will be registering a lower you CURRENTLY own, or are going to buy from a manufacturer ie Bushmaster, Colt, etc… you DO NOT need to engrave anything on it.
On a Form 1, section 4a it says:
Name and location of Original Manufacturer of Firearm.
What this means is if you own a bushmaster Lower (like I do) you just need to put in Bushmaster’s info and you will be registering that lower, therefore you DO NOT need to make any additional markings on your lower!
If you ever have any questions you can contact:
NFA Branch Chief
Ken Houchens
244 Needy Road
Martinsburg, WV 25401
Phone: (304) 616-4500
Fax: (304) 616-4501
This info is readily availible online, and therefore there shouldn’t be any problem with me posting it here - Mods - any objections?
Hope this helps!
This should get the fight started!
Pitbull - No disrespect, most of the information you posted in this thread is incorrect.
If you own a lower and want to turn it into a sbr you will need to engrave it because you have now become the manufacturer.
When you get back your tax stamp they do not give you any directions as what you need to do, that would be your responsibility.
What khc3 posted is correct…
The info must be stamped or engraved to .003" deep and must be on a part of the firearm that is visible without any disassembly.
There is no type or size requirement (there is for the serial number: 1/16" high), but it must be “legible.”
Although I read it and understood it to mean - all the markings had to be at least 1/16"
sorry if i misinformed anyone…just remember, i just posted what the agent told me.
I’m still new at this, and was just trying to help!
Not trying to throw fuel on the fire, but…
Here’s the issue I see with getting info from individual agents; standardization in enforcement as well as interpretation of written guidance. Asking an agent in Las Vegas his opinion will get you his answer. Ask an agent from Indiana and I would be willing to bet you get a different answer. Ask another agent in the Las Vegas office and it wouldn’t surprise me if you got a different answer.
For me, it doesn’t make much difference one way or the other. I’ll engrave and color the engraving. It costs me $45 to have it done and may deter some asshat from taking something that is more easily identified as not belonging to him as a possible side benefit.
Just my $.02. I could be wrong, it’s happened before.
point taken…and i just thought that there would be some continuity in the chain of command…silly me, I’ve forgotten what it was like when i was in the Army, not all that uncommon for things like that to happen
The really bad part about it is that they can prosecute you for doing exactly what their agent said. And, I’d bet the farm that he wouldn’t be there to say “my fault” if it went to trial. You must have any legal information they provide you in writing. This ensures that the information you receive is much more likely to be correct and can greatly help you in court if it isn’t correct or they change their minds at some later point in time.
BTW: This is my first post on this forum!
It sounds like dealing with the FAA. 
Having dealt with both agencies, I would say yes. The big difference is most FAA violations aren’t felonies;)
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Engrave your firearm BEFORE you submit your F1. That way if it gets screwed up, lost, or whatever, you are not out $200.
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The NFA Handbook, while nice to read, is NOT a legal document and is riddled with errors. I think they pulled it fix them. Get your info either from the US Code, or the CFR or a lawyer.
FWIW here is a letter from the ATF from doing a google search. It was post over at HKpro.
Sorry for the link to photobucket, but I can’t get my image editing software to work so I can’t shrink it below the required size limit.
http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s69/Donr101395/?action=view¤t=ATFengravingletter.jpg