I want to buy a SBR but I don’t know if I can even get one because I live in the barracks in Camp Lejeune, Anyone know?
I dont think it would be a problem, you’d obviously have to follow the USMC’s regulations about firearms on base.
But if you have your CLEO (sheriff/judge) or you go the trust route, as long as its stored in accordance with your base protocol, you shouldn’t get any flack about it…
But it does bring up an interesting point in regards to NFA and it being out of your “possession”, but an ARMS locker on a USMC base would be probably be more secure than someone’s private safe inside a suburban home…
I would do it to your permanent address and keep it there. I also wouldn’t count on the J-ville CLEO signing off on it.
Does the Provost need to be brought in the loop on this? I know you have to register firearms when living on base?
Provost for Ft. Bragg was keenly interested in my class 3 stuff, cant speak for the marines, but Id atleast ask them.
Devil, let me tell you it’s a NO GO on firearms in the barracks…no matter what. Even K-Bars are not “supposed” to be in there. And I’m not even sure that (A) I’d want my firearm in the Armory and (B) Trust them even if they would take possession of it.
I’m stationed at New River. PM me for contact info and a meet and greet possibly.
E5H
Yes, PMO does need to be informed of firearms in any domicile occupied by the active duty Marine. This goes for Base Housing, rentals or a purchased homes. Because the funds come from the Marine Corps their still entitled to have situational awareness of the contents i.e. weapons inside.
Example: Domestic dispute rings out(on/off base), shots fired and base and local law enforcement are called. PMO will do a check to see what weapons if any are on file so they know what their walking into.
Hope this helps someone. >>NOTE<< Once again not everyone does this because they don’t want people to know their business. I know I don’t.:rolleyes:
Son your out of your mind if you think that there is any chance of having a class III weapon IN the barracks. Let alone any weapon. How long have you been in anyhow to be asking that? Hell most units don’t even allow their men to CLEAN their service weapons in their rooms.
Now if you want to go ahead and keep it in the armory you go ahead and try. Again so highly doubtful it’s barely worth the thought, especially since your not only talking about a weapon but a Class III weapon. But I don’t think I’d want anyone’s dickskinners fingerbanging my rifle. Which by the way, WILL HAPPEN in the armory.
Having a firearm at your place on base housing is completely different and has a different set of rules.
A suggestion if I may. Head out to the nearest stripjoint. The Driftwood if I remember correctly (been a while). Marry the first low down skanky Jacksonville stripper you can find. And then get yourself into base housing. Then MAYBE, there is a shot.
I’m guessing that since your a Marine you do indeed have a chain of command. And well, since common sense is not a common virtue, you may want to use that chain of command to answer a question such as this…not the internet.
WARNING. If you do run that one up the chain be prepared for rigorous PT and/or duty on the weekend for asking a dumb question.
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Well thanks for making me sound like I’m some new boot. I have been in for a while now (2 OIF deployments) so I’m pretty sure I know how things work. Anyway my question was not if I could keep a class 3 weapon in the barracks. My question was that I was trying to see if there was a way I could have it but store it some where else.
You might be able to get one, and put the lower in a safety deposit box somewhere. That may be an option worth looking into. Even if you have to get it in your home state, and leave it there.
By the way, thank you for your service
thanks man for being the only guy to not bust my ball and giving me what I was looking for.
Just a little clarification of terms. I figure you are here for info, so I will provide you with some regarding your question.
There are no “Class 3” weapons. Class 3 is a classification of SOT (Special Occupational Taxpayer), or dealer. The weapon is an NFA, or Title 2, weapon, which covers suppressors, SBRs, machineguns, DDs, and AOWs. I have made the mistake as well, as pretty much everyone has initially. Class 3 dealers deal in NFA weapons. I am not an SOT nor do I own any NFA weapons, so I am simply going off of my current knowledge base from my desire to acquire one when I have the time. This forum is supposed to be about first-hand knowledge, but since you aren’t getting much help I am doing what I can. Hopefully someone with an NFA weapon in NC will chime in.
NC is NOT NFA friendly. Just do a quick search for “North Carolina NFA” on google and see what you get. Here’s one link of one guy’s experience. Even if you do successfully acquire an NFA weapon in NC you will need to move it to a secure location (as defined by BATFE) should you be deployed or PCS. A-1 Storage does not qualify.
There are Marines that have NFA weapons, but all of the ones I know live in private residences, and I didn’t know any while aboard MCBCL. As long as your permanent address (I am going to assume that you have a living relative that you use as your permanent address for USMC/Tax purposes) is in a state that permits SBRs, I would urge you to register and store your weapon at that location. Once you EAS or PCS you can request permission from the ATF to move the weapon to your new home.
I would also not store an NFA weapon in the armory, as you will have no control over who can fondle your gun like frat-boys with a passed-out cheerleader.
Mac- how about easing up on the guy? The people here know a hell of a lot more about NFA weapons than the COC will. He’s just trying to get some info, not asking about MCBOs.
BTW- I spent lots of time trying to bang strippers at the Dirtwood. . .
thank you very much for the info, from the sounds of it, my best bet would be to just wait to get out.
Strippers are nasty at the dirtwood.
Thank god some things never change 
ok ok I’ll be nice. But I have to disagree, there are far worse places than the Dirtwood there!! Sucks, I always won the hoggin’ contests.
But my point still stands. That is a question for the chain of command really.
And we’re Marines, so thick skin is mandatory. You can always leave it up to a fellow Marine to slap you in the nuts and call you dumb.
And I have to agree with the above stated. Just wait to you get out to get that. Funny how “wait until you get out” is the answer for alot of the problems in the Corps haha. Sucks it’s true.
Come on devil. Just two tours in Iraq by now? shit we’ve been there for nearly 5 years. Good on you. Maybe they will take the reigns off of our boys again.
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NC is NOT NFA friendly.
There are Marines that have NFA weapons, but all of the ones I know live in private residences, and I didn’t know any while aboard MCBCL. As long as your permanent address (I am going to assume that you have a living relative that you use as your permanent address for USMC/Tax purposes) is in a state that permits SBRs, I would urge you to register and store your weapon at that location. Once you EAS or PCS you can request permission from the ATF to move the weapon to your new home.
I would also not store an NFA weapon in the armory, as you will have no control over who can fondle your gun like frat-boys with a passed-out cheerleader.
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This is partly true. North Carolina IS NFA FRIENDLY and Sheriff Ed Brown will sign your Form 1 or Form 4 for a SBR, SBS, Suppressor, or Machine Gun - I don’t know about AOW or DD as I have not or know anyone who has tried these - and he usually does this while you are there if you schedule an appointment with his secretary.
Do some research to the places the ATF allows you to keep a weapon; a good choice if you want to have it close would be a safety deposit box in Jacksonville. I would agree that you don’t want to have the hassle with the armory for any firearm.
Tim
Tim-
Have you done NFA transactions in NC?
Everything I have seen, including NC State Law (link) says that in order to possess an NFA wepon you need to qualify for the following:
1.Persons exempted from the provisions of carrying a concealed weapon in North Carolina with respect to any activity lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties;
2.Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms, ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the laws of the United States or the State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under their licenses;
3.Persons under contract with the United States, the State of North Carolina, or any agency of either government, with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in under their contracts; or
4.Inventors, designers, ordinance consultants and researchers, chemists, physicists, and other persons lawfully engaged in pursuits designed to enlarge the knowledge of or to facilitate the creation, development, or manufacture of weapons of mass death and destruction intended for use in a manner consistent with the laws of the United States and the State of North Carolina.
It seems to be the general consensus that to qualify you must meet provision 1 or 2, or 3 and 4.
I had an acquaintance that applied for a silencer permit and was told to piss off, so he went through his permanent address in Virginia.
Of course, if you have done it, and know how to word the application, the information would be appreciated.
Yes I have. My first two were done while livng in Onslow County. No probelms at all, contacted Phil Flack, a dealer in Ashville, NC as he specializes in HK and I needed a host weapon modified to accept a sear so I used him to buy the sear as well, it was being sold by a dealer in South Carolina and need to be transfered to a NC dealer first. He sent me the Form 4, I took it to Sheriff Brown, he signed it on the spot. I had my fingerprints taken at the Jacksonville PD and I sent the paperwork in to the ATF. A couple of months later Phil Flack called and I picked up my machine gun. Second was just as smooth and simple. I have also done transfers in CO and VA and these were the same process. I think once you do your first transfer and see how easy it is, it becomes no big deal.
I have good friends who have had similar experiences with SBR’s, SBS, and suppressors in Onslow County, to the point where Sheriff Brown recognized one of them out in town as “The NFA Guy.”
The problem the original poster will have is where to store the weapon, if he can own it in the eyes of the ATF - looking at federal law - then he won’t have a problem once the Sheriff signs off on the paperwork.
ETA: First Form 4 reason I listed was, “personal collection” the second was, “scientific research & experimental purposes, protection of my home and business.”
Tim
Tim-
Awesome, good info.
Appreciated.
This was very entertaining…Back in my day we used to go out to Silver & Gold in Sneads Ferry, which Is now called “Cherrie’s” If I’m not mistaken. And not to bust anyone’s balls but 2 deployments at the rate the op tempo Is these days…Big Deal! Also to the Sgt who was trying to help his junior Devil Dog out…good on you, It’s just to bad that these young guys don’t appreciate anyone trying to excercise some leadership and offer some good advice.