Hello all, first post here (though i’ve been reading and learning for some time). I have a quick question. I currently have a NIB Bushmaster Modular Carbine that I purchased a few months ago. After much reading here, I now realize that the Bushmaster is not a “top of the line gun”.
I have the opportunity to do an even trade for a NIB S&W15T. Do you think this would be a good trade? The rifles are set up basically the same except for the brand of the components. BTW, the 15T does have the LMT bolt, I checked. It will not take PMags though.
Again, I really appreciate the knowledge and advice on this forum. Thanks!
Yeah, I’m bummed out about the PMags not working, I have quite a few of them. I am waiting on the PMag body replacements. I’ve heard the new mags will shrink a little over about a three week time period after they are made. Maybe they will work in the 15T then.
What’s wrong with the 15T? Why is the owner willing to trade it for the Modular Carbine? If you’re trading a gun that works for one that doesn’t, that’s not a great trade for you.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The 15T is new at my local gun shop. I was even there when UPS delivered it. Since I’m one of their favorite customers, I have the opportunity to do an even trade with my Bushmaster Modular Carbine.
Yeah, I’m with utarch00. Jump on it today. The Troy rail that the 15T comes with is worth it in and of itself; I’m not a huge fan of the Bushmaster rail. In addition, the 15T has better sights. If they’re willing to do it, take 'em up on it.
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the input. I will be stopping by there after work to do the trade. Since the PMags won’t fit, I guess I’ll have to order some more D&H mags from BCM!!
Based on what I’ve read on the net, a little sanding of that one pmag rib that comes in contact with the 15T’s mag well will allow the pmags to fully insert into the rifle and eliminate any problem. Haven’t had the chance to try the fix yet but it sounds pretty easy and harmless.
Thanks again for everyone’s input. I was able to pick up the 15T this evening. I like it much better than the Bushmaster. I will try the sanding fix on one of my PMags as soon as the replacement bodies get here. I really hope it works out as the PMags are my current favorites.
No, Bushie and Remington both were aquired by Cerebrus Capital Investments. I’m not dead certain how the corporations are arranged, but both firms were heavily invested in by Cerberus. S&W recently aquired Thompson/Center. S&W were themselves purchased by Safe-T-Hammer of Arizona from the Bangor-Punta group (IIRC) a handful of years ago. http://www.cerberuscapital.com/
Given Cerberus’ track record of turning companies around, I really, really hope it does. Can’t do much more than hope at this point, but I would think those two would be on the list of aspects of the companies to be addressed.
I’d like to see that happen. Both companies have been in a negative pitch slide- BM sells a lot of guns, but it is miniscule to what Colt sells on the mil contracts. Both have name recognition, but different markets.
I can’t see BM making a serious gun, as they are primarily wedded to the hobby market and that bottom line. Additionally, the market for serious guns, once occupied by Colt alone, now has LMT, BCM (uppers only -drat!)- and the new M&P.
S&W has listened, and while their LE folks are the absolute best, the company is focused on hunting, and non fighting guns :rolleyes: .
I have two- one old, and one new. I have enough on the older one (Stag) to make comments, but not on the new one (because the wheels at S&W are lubricated with cheese and sand ).
BM can however upgrade certain things (MP for instance) but strongly doubt that they will.
I don’t know enough about Remington, their guns or market to make any strong comments, but truly hope both companies see a better future.
While I don’t doubt BCM produces a great quality upper, they haven’t been producing many. Weren’t they without product for 6 months or maybe even longer?
I realize Paul’s standards are very high, but if you are unable to supply the market with product, the shopper will go elsewhere. Unless the shopper is already equipped with a qaulity weapon and he can afford to wait until BCM gets back into production mode.
I will be interetsed in seeing if once BCM production gets cranked back up, if they will be able to sustain it.
Not sure what your point is. Paul maintains a high standard. The steel supply companies apparently have ethics issues similar to the gun companies.
Paul orders a specific steel. The vendor sends it.
Paul sends samples out for verification.
It comes back not as ordered.
The steel goes back and the process continues, at great expense to him.
The proper steel is being worked now. You can contact Paul for availability.
I agree that people will buy lessor because a great many of AR owners haven’t a clue and wouldn’t know quality beyond the “fit and finish” or “mine is flawless” or “i LOVE mine” crowds.
Paul could have taken the improper steel and cranked out a lot and sold a lot and as the average buyer doesn’t shoot enough to know the difference, Paul would.
BCM is in the market, and while his uppers are not a big part of it, they may or may not be in the future.
I have 3 of his uppers. I will get more when they become available.
We may be on different tracks here, but my point is that quality exists, and i’ll go for real stuff vice hobby stuff whenever i buy.
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