Anyone able to find the new .308 from S&W? Is it KAC or DPMS magazines?
Price seems a little high?
First, sorry about the title. Tapatalk did it, because I typed it correctly. I would appreciate if a Mod could fix it.
Second, MSRP is higher than you pay. The M&P-15 Sport is MSRP $839 and no one pays that (well, before the Great Panic). A 629 4" is $949, and up here they are about $805. So call it 85%. 85% of MSRP is $1470.
That includes the MOE stock and camo dip. I’m guessing about $1300-1350 if they did a plain black flattop.
You are getting ambi controls, which if you added a BAD lever, Norgon and safety would be at least $125.
Finally you get a 9310 UberHype bolt (or insert your own superlative) and 5R rifling. I am assured by gnat shooters that this makes a difference.
Just think of it as a $1200 rifle with mandatory ambi, stock, material and finish upgrades.
I think it may be priced fairly, if it functions properly. Around Armalite pricing: above DPMS and below Colt. I’ve heard nothing but good about S&W 5.56s, so I’d hope this is the same. I like the 18" and mid-gas. 5R 1:10 sounds great, but 4140 seems modest. Lack of threading and FH is unforgivable, as that adds another $125+. Not thrilled about the bolt-on railed GB, but such is life. S&W is VERY welcome to bring more 308s to the table.
I held the Smith .308s at SHOT show today and was quite pleased with them. There were two versions that I saw, neither of which were this camo one.
There was a Magpul version, with MOE stock, grip, and midlength handguard, with Troy Flip-up sights and Smith Flash hider. It looked like a .308 version of their MOE Mid rifle. There was also an Optics ready version, which had A2 style furniture, a flat top, and a railed gas block. The barrel is slim, like the MOE MID 5.56, which made the rifle feel less heavy than the Bushmaster .308.
With the quality Smith has been delivering recently, I think this is going to be a winner.
The weight on the website look very reasonable…just over 8 lbs IIRC. The magpul version may very well get me off the fence. I’ve been thinking about all the sub-$2k semiauto308s for years. I nearly gave my wallet a heartattack when the Colt showed up. If the S&W is a solid $500 savings, AND if it has no major teething problems…
According to S&W spec page it will use PMags.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/other/PS/2013/811312_v011113a.pdf
Why would they use 4140 when the new 5.56 gets 4150?
I heard the barrel is non-free float. Thoughts?
It’s obviously non free float, unless they stuck a tube under the plastic handguards.
Looking at S&W’s website and I found 3
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One obviously marketed towards hunting (real tree, no flash hider among certian features) - the one seen at SHOT. Listed at $1729 on S&W’s website
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A black, optics ready M&P-10 - no price listed
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A black M&P-10 with Troy BattleSights - no price listed
I looked everywhere to find something other than the camo/hunting one but couldn’t find it, sorry I am having to link to S&Ws page for the specs on the black M&P-10s.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757913_-1_757798_757797_image
Looks interesting. Always room for another 308 on the AR market. I am glad to see companies like S&W moving forward with new products in the face of the tidal wave of BS from DC and in the media.
What’s ETA to market?
Held it at Shot. Is LITE! I made a couple reliability suggestions, but other than that, it looked good.
C4
Yup, it sure was. A little under 7 3/4 lbs, with an 18" barrel.
Exactly what I was looking for.
Grant, any idea when you might start seeing these become available to you as a dealer? I’d like to pick up one of the # 311314 model.
Thanks.
None (as manufacturers don’t give ETA’s). We did order a bunch of them along with mags.
C4
Nice to see more 308 ARs hit the market.
For what it’s worth, the rep in the booth said they already had some in inventory. Probably enough for T&E’s, rep and distributor samples, etc.
Looks good! Impressive weight, but would have liked to seen higher quality barrel, and a modular floated rail for that price.