Yes, I use an ALS with an M&P40/TLR. I’m pretty happy with it. We’ve also got the SLS style in use also.
The only retention holster I have for my M&P is a Safariland ALS. It needed to be modified a bit to fit with Lasergrips.
(I’ve since ditched the shroud)
I also use a Safariland for open/tactical carry with the SLS hood. IMHO, nothing is even close . . . and like many commenting on this issue, I have spent a lot on a lot of holsters that just sit in my closet (except the above mentioned Safariland, and for CC my Sparks VMII
question for the als owners. is there a difference in security / draw / retention between light or no light. i am interested in getting one of these and was just wondering. thanks for the help.
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I appreciate everyone weighting in on my question. I have a M&P 9 and like the OP I too am looking for a holster but would like one that allows for carrying the M&P with a light attached. So if you all could expand a bit more it would really help me in picking one out.
" I am using a M&P 9 with a XXXX light in a XXX holster by XXXXX, it works/sucks for me."
M&P 40 with SureFire X200/Insight SSL in a 6004-219-21 with an Eagle 6004 platform/shroud.
Works like every other 6004 I have used for the last 10 years.
Bob
Ok, question for you Safariland users:
Actually, 2 questions:
I want to get the 6004 style with ALS only and no SLS hood. For the S&W MP 9. I am having a hard time finding this in stock. I want to use the Eagle 6004 shroud setup.
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I assume and want confirmation or rebuttal that I can buy a belt holster or whatever is cheapest and just take the holster off the belt clip/loop/whatever and attach it to the Eagle? All the 6xxx Safariland holsters use the same attachment? I could buy a 6320 or something that is stocked and just take it off the belt loop part and attach it to the Eagle shroud…
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How easy is it to take the SLS hood off of an ALS holster leaving only the normal ALS holster?
Thanks
Chad
- I assume and want confirmation or rebuttal that I can buy a belt holster or whatever is cheapest and just take the holster off the belt clip/loop/whatever and attach it to the Eagle? All the 6xxx Safariland holsters use the same attachment? I could buy a 6320 or something that is stocked and just take it off the belt loop part and attach it to the Eagle shroud…
Thanks
Chad[/QUOTE]
This is my question as well. I was hoping to attach a 6820 to the 6004 shroud I already have.
If it has the “T” bolt pattern I’m pretty sure you can. I have the AlS only on order, and will let you know if it ever comes in. Or if I get to teh shop that has them, I’ll check them out.
Bob
For those of you who like to have the weapon higher on the leg, Safariland now makes a one strap shroud. It doesn’t have the MOLLE straps like the Eagle but it’s definitely higher up than the two strap shroud. It was designed to work like the modified shroud that a lot of people were using. The one strap is what I am using now at the Rogers School and I like it quite a bit.
I have been using an ALS only duty rig since December and think it is the best option out there in terms of balancing speed of access and security. My concern is the cant that Safariland puts on the holster. I really prefer a straight drop and don’t know why the ALS products are canted (albeit slightly). Any ideas?
I spoke with a Safariland rep about this last year since I also hate the forward cant found on the duty holsters. I was told the cant was added as a “safety feature”. It was supposed to help limit the chance of an officer putting a round into his/her thigh should a ND occur during reholstering. How much truth is there in that? I have no clue.
This is my question as well. I was hoping to attach a 6820 to the 6004 shroud I already have.[/QUOTE]
IIRC Safariland standardized on the 3 bolt pattern last year and all of their current holsters are built using this pattern. I’ve taken 6377s and put them on 6004 shrouds and taken holster bodies off a 6004 and put them on UBLs turning them into 6280s. The only problem you may run into is making sure the length of the screws for the holsters are correct.
Safariland is sued on a regular basis by officers who shoot themselves while reholstering with their fingers on the trigger. Consequently, Bill designs their holsters to minimize this possibility as much as possible; he personally told me that. At least one officer managed to shoot himself twice (in succession) while reholstering.
OK I got a reply from Safariland CS that I can take the holster of the concealed version (6378 or some such) and stick it on a leg shroud. So I have an Eagle shroud coming and a ($47.xx free shipping 6378 ALS only) coming. Will see if I can make it work…
OK this is what I did (pics will come eventually)
I bought the 6378 for the M&P (non light version). This was under $50 delivered and is the ALS only version in a paddle holster variant.
I bought the Eagle 6004 shroud.
I took the holster off the paddle part (3 screws and your done) and screwed it on to the Eagle leg shroud. (which was just over $40 delivered). So for about $90 delivered I have a high riding leg rig for the M&P. Added some Tactical Tailor mag pouches to the PALS loops and will be practicing drawing from the ALS system (so far pretty easy with an empty gun in my basement – have not tried it live yet).
Questions on Sariland Specific to the M&P Line.
Do the holsters fit different between FS and the L (or 5") barrels?
Also looking for the Safariland Part numbers and suggested retailers.
Looking for high riding thigh holster to fit both a 9L and a FS 40.
Thanks!
The Eagle leg shroud for the Safariland holsters provide a high thigh ride (with only one strap wrapping around the leg due to the higher ride compared to traditional thigh holsters – on me it is only a couple inches lower than a belt holster IIRC – I will have to test and see how much lower it is).
AFAIK the 5" should fit in any of the holsters the FS fit in as the Safariland is an open bottom holster. One of mine is made for the compact model but also fits the FS fine for example. You just have a little more of your slide exposed.