http://soldiersystems.net/2010/01/15/robinson-arms-sues-remington-bushmaster-rra-and-magpul/
I’ll refrain from commenting… Wouldn’t be in line with the stated purpose of the forum.
FN FAL
HK G3.or MP5 any paddle mag release is ambi
Thinking more of the line everybody is hurting for money
The XCR doesn’t have a paddle mag release.
Screw Robinson Arms. After they supported Romney, any desire I MAY have had for an XCR (which wasn’t much) evaporated.
Looks like he’s following the A.R.M.S. business model.
That’s pretty retarded. I don’t like H&K’s views on civilian gun ownership, but they make damn fine firearms and I buy them when I can.
As far as the lawsuit goes, if RA’s design was patented and the other companies involved copied the design then they had better find a different design…eh? I do know the XCR was a working prototype as early as 2002. Patents are a very important part of the free market place…its what keeps the drive for innovation and invention alive based on the reward of bringing something new to the market that no one else in town makes.
Well, there goes any chance I’ll ever buy an XCR.
Robinson Armament and ARMS should skip the lawsuit and have an attorney draft up a merger instead.
I guess when your sales start to slump, it’s time to sue, right?
:rolleyes:
I look foward to hearing a list of guns that featured the XCR’s patented features before the XCR.
I’ll help. M96, also a Robinson gun
Anyone else?
If you say FAL or G36, you fail. Read the patent and try again.
It’s not Robarm’s fault the ACR ergos are strangely similar.
Here is my actual M96. See the design?
sorry for my ignorance, but can you explain??
Agent Smith: Do you hear that, Mr. Robinson? That is the sound of inevitability.
Lawsuits don’t settle anything other than who has the better attorney(s). Robinson Arms doesn’t have the resources to fight a protracted legal battle, the Freedom group does. Simple attrition warfare here.
someone explain to me how protecting the years of work we have put into our rifles make us the bad guy? This is industry, people. Stop making it so personal.
:rolleyes:
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If they truly are unique features that you truly invented, then, by all means, protect them.
If however the features are minor alterations of normal firearm parts that have been around for a long time, then, please. Go beat a wall somewhere else.
I started to read the patent and my eyes glazed over. I am not in any position to pass judgement. I guess we’ll have to let the courts do so.
I’m not terribly familiar with the XCR, but what does the article mean when it says the XCR’s mag release is operated by the trigger finger from within the trigger guard? It looks similar to an AR mag release to me.
My apologies. I truly overlooked that sentence.
Who was it that said, “We have met our enemy, and it is us!!”
This suspiciously sounds like market envy on Robinson Arms’ part. I guess they decided to adopt like ARMS’ “If we aren’t doing so well, let’s sue those who are” business model. :rolleyes:
What really sucks is that all this will do is hurt the firearms industry and stifle further efforts to advance the technologies and designs in use.
Well you have to remember that there are quite a few guys on this forum that are literally foaming at the mouth in anticipation of latest and greatest upcoming ACR. This lawsuit could potentially damage their dreams of what is in their mind the ultimate rifle of this era…so, they will hate Robinson Arms with a passion and talk about how they will never buy a XCR.
I like guns, but sometimes I think people get a little out of control with their coveting. Sometimes emotion defies logical thinking.
My bad, Variablebinary. I forgot about the introduction of the bolt release in the M96 in the late 1990s. That certainly was the first I’d seen of such a design.
I think that how it comes across is that if one fails in the market, then they go to the courts to make up that failure. That is what people resent.
I am not saying that applies in this case but with many other cases out there that fit that description, each succeeding case does not get judged on its merits but through those glasses of market failure and fatigue.
As I mentioned previously, I started to read the patent. It looked pretty specific in terms of having certain number of things at angles etc to each other. When looked at narrowly, if the other guns use the same mechanism, then you win. If their mechanisms may be similar but not exactly as described then you should lose.
It’s not emotions, it’s cynicism.
I find the timing of this to be unbelievably suspect. If it walks like a duck…
I’ve got no pony in this race. I could give two flips about ACR’s vapourware status, or that RobArm’s getting butthurt over the fact that they’re about to get some hardcore competition.
I’ll just sit tight for the MR556.
This. No, This x 1000.
Chad, you are the man. You stole the words out of my fingertips.