I’ll likely pick one of those up but it looks like BUIS are out of the question due to the height of the optic. Also the mount doesn’t appear to be quick detachable either
that is my glock 34 in the pictures with my raven custom holster…
it is not qd, but I have been in talks with Bill and amy, about a few changes to it.
then again its intended roll and what people want it to be are two different things…
I have a Glock 19 with an RMR, and while I do think it is worth it, you may want to reconsider getting it done right before a class (depending on current ability and training level). There is a bit of a learning curve with these, and until you get out in front of that, it may impede your ability to benefit from the training. You do not want to be learning your optic when you are trying to learn other techniques.
I will recommend ATEi for the work. They have done two pistols for me and the work is top notch.
I’ve been really interested in that system since seeing it last year.
How does that Raven holster work? Cross draw OWB?
The Black one is set up as a strong side and adjustable with a teclok
the other in gray is set up as a driving rig in cross draw fashion at request of some friends doing work that requires it (raven normally does not do crossdraw)
with the teclok as well, it can be set up strong side too
That is a good looking setup. For a home-defense Glock, it would be good to go.
I agree. I added an x300 ultra but, might go to the x400 for giggles
that said I carried it and taught with it
The right holster can do wonders.
I wonder just how much abuse it can take.
Curious. What do think future RMR setups will incorporate, more specifically, how will differ from current set ups?
Thanks.
Now I’m curious if this can be AIWB carried. Hmm, this with an APL in a dedicated AIWB rig…
I think it will become something like the 6 Second mount with some type of BUIS installed. It seems that the movement of the slide is what’s killing the optic so it would make sense to see a move to eliminating movement of the optic. The addition of the BUIS is a requirement of certain people (myself included) so this would need to be accomplished by either super tall irons on the slide or something on the optic mounting platform
Yep! I tried an RMR08. I love the sight on a shotgun or rifle but I found myself hunting for the dot on a pistol. I kept instinctively searching for the front sight.
Try flattening out your presentation
Bingo
a lot trust me
A sloppy presentation doesn’t work well with irons, either. It’s just that the dot seems to hold you more accountable as it really throws your errors in your face, both during the draw and while shooting. For that reason a lot of guys I know with time on pistol dots say it has immensely helped their iron sight shooting as well. Guys with a solid presentation and good trigger control and follow-through also seem to transition to red dots easier as well. Shooting with the dot isn’t any harder, it’s just not as forgiving. And in a lot of ways that’s certainly not a bad thing.
So… the upside of adding $400+ worth of optics to your $800 handgun is?..
I think the MRDS will continue to evolve on the slide, maybe in 5 or so years we will see M&P’s and Glocks (ok maybe 20 for Glock) with a slight redesign to accommodate a lower mounted MRDS . I really like the idea of the rear buis being integrated into the MRDS itself that some companies have done. If they can make them with the bottom of the view port nearly flush with the top of the slide then you can make the view port taller which will really help in finding the dot.
Frame mounted red dots have been around a long time on race guns so I don’t really see any major breakthroughs there.
I agree with this. If anything, shooting a RDS on a pistol is good training for irons (instead of the other way around).
Basically, an RDS is less forgiving than irons (you’ll still usually hit with not perfectly aligned irons, but you won’t even see the red dot at those angles), is less durable, has batteries, and can fog up. It also costs more money. But RDSs do help a lot in low light and at longer ranges (>20 yds).
The benefit is that when you are dialed in with a red dot, you’re faster and more accurate, especially at longer ranges. Basically the same reasons probably 99% of M4C members have an optic on their primary carbine. And the same reasons that all of the Open Class competition pistol shooters have been using dots since the first one existed that was small enough to cobble onto a handgun.
The difference here is that it’s only relatively recent that the technology became small and rugged enough to be viable for carry/defensive pistol use, so it’s still a pretty new concept that will take getting used to. I think as the technology improves it will be a lot easier to reap the rewards, until then some of us just like to be ahead of the curve. 