Jake has tested them at 100 yards out of a 16" in gel. And same results.
Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk
My neighbor gave me some of these to play with. So far they don’t shoot as well as a 77 SMK or NCC in my gun but I think they have some promise.
Rifle is a Lone Peak action with a 7.5 twist Krieger. 22.8 8208 (light load), FC brass that was annealed, BR4 primer-because I have a lot of them and like the harder cups.
All three 5-shot groups at 100 yards yielded sub MOA with one near 1/2 MOA. I think I need to play with seating depth as I had one shot on two of the groups that I would consider a flyer, and caused the groups to grow substantially. They were still counted.
Gel performance on the closed tip looks good,wonder how it would perform from a 12.5” barrel in calibrated ballistic gel.
Impressive results for a bullet half the price of SMK’s.
In my quest to put together a load that I could make on my Dillon 550 and still be sub MOA, I proceesed some brass and made a small batch using the 69 grain RMR, 25.3 (edit) SMP 735 surplus ball powder, Fiocchi SR magnum, and misc brass consisting of LC,FC,and PMC. Powder was thrown with the Dillon measure.
I grabbed the bolt gun on Saturday and shot at 330, 420, 545, and 1000 yards. Wind was mild, between 2- 5MPH but was changing almost constantly. Temp hovered in the mid 50s. Primers were slightly flat but extracted without an issue. I will probably turn the load down a couple tenths to compensate for warm weather.
330 and 420 yard steel were first shot hits on 10" circles. 545 was high on the first shot and the next was a hit on an 8" square. After I took a couple shots on it, I tried a couple on a 4" square and hit 2 of 3. I had 3 left and shot at a silhouette at 1000. Shot 1 and 3 were unknown but 2 was a confirmed impact. The mirage made it really difficult to see what was happening at that distance.
Next is to try some loads with the same headstamp and put them on paper.
Would you guys offer any updates on these? I’d like to save my 77 smk loads for 600+ yard shooting. I’m looking for something that will do well inside of that, and as a general practice round. Based on what I’m reading here, I’m thinking about order 1k to see how they do.
Honestly, if they can hold moa at 600… I’d just start loading these exclusively. Also, has anyone used CFE223, Benchmark or Varget with them?
These are remarkable for the price. They are all day long to our 750. Buy with confidence. We use H322 and if we are slapping steel CQB or long range. You can mortar 1,000. All is good.
PB
That’s pretty much what we’re doing. I’ll load a few hundred 77s every so often so we have them available. But we’re loading/shooting these weekly now.
Also, has anyone used CFE223, Benchmark or Varget with them?
I don’t like Varget’s metering or bulk density for .223. It will work, but it’s not the best choice. Of those, I’d shoot CFE. Benchmark worked best for lighter bullets for us, but I never got Super results in 69 and heavier OTMs. (not that you can’t get there, I’m just lazy)
That’s fair, I appreciate the reply. I use 24gr of Varget under the 77smk as my normal match load. I stock CFE 223 and Benchmark, so I thought I’d ask. Whenever H322 shows up again, I’ll buy some. I know a lot of guys who use that and TAC and keep telling me to switch.
I put the order in for 1k to try them out. I can shoot a lot more often with these if they work out.
Don’t get me wrong. Varget will give great results. It’s just that you can get the same results with powders that meter a little better. I’ve heard guys say Varget is great… you just can’t get enough of it in there. (for .223 specifically)
Do you guys ever load any XBR?
Agree on Varget and metering. I have better luck metering I4895 and XBR than Varget.
I’m constantly messing with Varget to get it correct.
We load a lot of XBR. I haven’t tried it with these 69s since we already had load data for h322.
These aren’t an SMK but for half the price, they perform well above their pay grade.
They do okay at 600 and beyond. I’m pushing them pretty hard from a 24" barrel but a bullet with this low of a BC will still move 5-6" with 1 MPH of full value wind change. Kinda makes it more of a challenge which I like.
During this drought, I’m running a surplus ball powder that’s a similar burn rate to H322,
and am getting good results. The ball powder may be a little more temp sensitive than H322 and 8208, but it meters awesome from my Dillon.
I’ve had some really good results using TAC behind a 68 Hornady BTHP but have not tried it with these.
8208 XBR is a terrible powder, stay away from it 
How do you like these as compared to the 62gr hpbt Hornady bullets from mid south shooter?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
These are a solid jump up from the 62’s. They are almost SMK or Nosler performance. A great value for a very good bullet. Those 62’s are nice but these are better. Plus they weigh more which helps at distance.
PB
Ok thanks. I need to remember these next time I order bullets. I only need something out to about 600 max.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
68s and 69s ping the steel a little harder at longer ranges in my experience. Its not a lot, but worthwhile for going past 300-400, in addition to the BC advantage.
I bought a few thou of these and am going to try to work up a load for CFE or TAC. Hopefully CFE will work out.
For me, the Hornady 62 BTHP was the most accurate bullet for the dollar until the recent panic, and they have started to creep up in price. I love shooting them in my old Remington LTR but I think the RMR 69 is going to be displacing it.
Hornady lists the BC at .270 (G1) and RMR lists their 69 at .320, so it is a substantial improvement. Velocity affects BC. Most stated coefficients are based on an average so there are a few variables at play here.
I have a good friend who likes CFE223 behind the Nosler 77s and found the best consistency using a warmer load.
Let us know what you find out on the cfe load.
I wonder how h335 would work with these? I have 8lbs of it that I bought and didn’t have a specific bullet I was going to use with it
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
H335 will work. Hodgdon shows 22-24 grains for a 69 SMK. It may not give you the highest velocities but it will do just fine and give you plenty of gas to run an AR.