Yeah, Im sure its been asked before at least a time or 3 but let’s turn up some new water. When is the XD going to get some major mil/le contracts? People love the Glocks and for good reason, myself included. But tell me something horrible about them as to why they shouldn’t be on the front line? I would go as far to say these are better than the Glocks (both stock) I don’t know, get mad and take a side!
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The main issue is when tested with a large round count, the guns just are not as reliable as other polymer weapons. Couple that with the fact that most LE or .Mil contracts are written to not allow a grip safety. So the XD is doomed.
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So its sleep for the XD! :lazy2: Damn, heart breaking lol I stay on team Springfield… Wheres dat easy button at? Thanks C4IGrant
If you put aside the technicals for a moment, I have noticed the following about the XD…
Some people really love them! My friend has a large, expensive gun collection. He could buy anything he wanted. He carries an XD 40 everywhere he goes. I don’t understand it. He has Berettas, Glocks, 1911s and he chooses to carry the XD.I have a few acquaintances that feel the same way.
Personally, I hate them. Like I said all technical attributes aside, they feel flimsy, have too many buttons and I can’t hit the broad side of a barn with them.
My biggest problem with them is that they somehow doubled in price after Springfield Armory put it’s adorable little stamp on it.
In addition to the above, the other factor limiting the XD is that it is a single action pistol. This can be important variable with certain end-users and their risk assessment folks. (See also: M&P)
I really like the XD for its ergos and trigger. I think its a great pistol for target shooting. The two that I have had personal experience with both had various issues including consistent FTF’s with KG new magazines and FTE’s. These issues were replicated with different ammunition including decent FMJ and JHP.
I wish Springfield would make a more reliable version of this pistol with the same trigger. The XDM just is not as good as the original in my opinion.
I have an XDm 3.8 full size in 9mm. It’s been a great shooter, no failures in 1500 rounds or so. They just don’t cone with that deep Leo bulk purchase discount like the others. Oh well. It’s a platform that’s still relatively new to most people, and it still has something to prove. I love mine though.
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The HS2000 turned into the XD. The XDM was a new design.
What exactly is “new” about the platform that hasn’t been done by other gun makers?
EDIT: For some reason, I thought this was a response to me. Please disregard my original post.
Yours is a sample size of one, not an average and really doesn’t prove much. It is not that new and so far it has proven to be lacking when compared to some other pistols out on the market. This is not to say, the XD is the worst gun and no one should buy them, but instead means there are better options for the money. If you have one and it does what you want it to at a level you are happy with, then rock on.
Yeah I guess its just a polymer center fire pistol when it comes down to it. Nothing new, just a different variation on the same old stuff. I suppose one reason I like it is the grip angle, it pointed well right off the bat.
I’m not saying its a great gun because I happen to have a winner. I just like it, nothing more, nothing less. Every gun can always use improvements, including the xd and XDm. If it maintains It’s current pace, ill be satisfied.
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How exactly is the XDm a new design compared to the XD? Because it comes with a Fobus holster and a “match grade” barrel? (Whatever that means).
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I think the regular xd comes with a plinking grade holster as well right?
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I carry an XD both on and off duty. I have had zero problems but I’ll be moving to a glock soon. I have a friend who has been in officer involved shooting with an xd and he had a problem with the grip safety. He must not have engaged it fully and did a tap rack bang. I think that is more of a training issue and not the pistol.
The XD’s bring absolutely nothing to the table that the Glock, M&P and HK didn’t already bring, performance wise.
THIS is why the XD is not seen often in an LE role.