OP, you need to join a private gun club.
You already posted this on 2 gun boards.
What is your point?
Open your own range if you feel so blindly you were smitted and feel entitled.
Already, I know your age and probably the brand of truck you drive.
Go to the cafe, eat a humble pie and move on.
As I stated on the other board, my indoor range closed because of ricochet, accidents, people misusing equipment.
Follow their rules or go to the bank and open your own range.
Good luck.
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That’s sound advice, but the OP may want to speak with current gun club members about restrictions on shooting on the move, target placement etc. before joining.
Not as sure on indoor range backstops either. And on the “any” ammo that will attract a magnet, I should have tossed in a caveat about steel jacketed ammo (which in my experience won’t damage steel targets) versus something like .30-06 M2 ball which will, of course, work as intended on steel. And all the while not taking issue with 45gr jhp .223 which (in my experience) will chew up targets in short order due to velocity. One that does seem legit, but usually isn’t listed as the logic, is steel on steel hits causing sparks and fire potential.
Another one further back was a USFS employee at their public range convinced people were mowing down 4x4 treated target frames with machine guns while equally certain the #7-1/2 & #8 pellets embedded in the stubs along with the pile of 12 gauge empties 10’ away played no role in the damage.
In the case of one of our local indoor ranges, the business owner has to weigh their $700,000 investment on bullet traps against restrictions on target placement and ammunition used. Making $15-$30 on a range fee vs a $700,000 investment is a consideration.
My thoughts, also.
And that his dues won’t be used to subsidize trap and skeet while the rifle/pistol range get neglected.
Really? I don’t believe anything about my post makes me appear as if I feel entitled. I was looking for opinions as to what the concern was, so that I could add more to my knowledge base. I didn’t post looking for arguments or criticism. I find the confrontational nature of your response amusing. Just for the sake of argument? How old am I and what kind of truck do you think I drive? I mean, since you know me so well. Perhaps you were the RO that reprimanded me? If so, I again apologize for violating a rule that I had no way of knowing existed.
Like I said, I understand the creation of the rules are for everyone’s safety and are created based upon the lowest common denominator of shooter. For clarification for those who raised certain points in their post. I wasn’t using steel core ammunition and like I said there was no such rule listed among the rules. The range had been in existence for five years, so I found it odd that a rule that had been in place that entire time wasn’t listed among all the range rules. IF it had been, I would not have been breaking the rule. It is hard to follow rules that you are unaware of. Consider it let go by me. I agree, a private club sounds like an amazing idea.
You remind me of the guy who destroyed all of the chronos at my current range.
Instructions was written all over on how to use it yet he destroyed it and then whines that he is Russian and his English wasn’t so good on how to use it.
Press on
Wait for zero fps to show.
Shoot inside the chrono space
Do not shoot chrono…
Do not shoot the wires surrounding the chrono.
Still he shot the chrono…and wire.
You understand everything what was going on.
All ranges have range nazis and funky rules.
End of the day like on the other board.
There rules, there setup…end of story…
Or go to the next board meeting and read to the committee everything you just wrote.
Or
Open your own private range and make your own rules that suits you.
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The range has basic use rules (distance) that apply to centerfire rifles but doesn’t post such rules? Doesn’t make sense to me. Can’t expect compliance with unwritten rules that range goers would not otherwise consider.
What you’re describing would be uniquely poor range management. My guess is that there’s more to the story.
Cheers
And a better ground to air grievances is the range committee.
Not us…
I fail to see what we can do other than brew up a curse or mutter a hex towards whatever range the OP went to.
Yeah…I’m pissing in the water here because I’ve had enough people come to my range and leave in a huff over silly rules.
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Ok, that is seriously funny. Thank you.
It’s like any place, organization, etc. Rules seem to grow based on occurrences, good or bad through time. Take it however, may be the first time they saw something that needs to be addressed. Bottom line, it’s a private facility and they didn’t like something they saw and addressed it. Not to be confused with a law in a legal sense.
Both you and the RO seem like you would be a total pain in the ass to deal with.
He could have easily said,
“The last time guys were in here doing that we had floor hits and ceiling hits. So just use the distances and locations as told.”
When you said “I’ll have you know I did multiple shooting courses and when I was a reserve AF SF I deployed and co-located with an ODA and as a matter of fact I just did a course with police officers and…”
He could have replied “Got it dude, you’re both high speed and on the spectrum, just be cool and use the distances and locations instructed even though I know you would never jack it up, it’s just one of the rules.”
The indoor range where I shoot has derps in there all the time that’ll post a target right at the top of the carrier, set it at 10 feet, then bang away at it from the bench sending all their rounds into the ceiling rather than the trap. They just obliviously blast away while ceiling material and wood chips and shit rain down behind their target. Idiots. I swear, the average IQ on the range most days hovers around 80.
This shit happens every day, causes real damage, and it’s the reason why such rules exist. If you don’t want to follow their rules, go somewhere else to shoot. It’s that simple. You don’t need to write them a letter like some kind of whiny-ass teenager who had her phone taken away.
Shoot at any indoor range and the evidence of the endless stream of fuktards is everywhere.
I look at the walls, the ceiling the floor, just about anywhere and shake my head wondering how anyone could be so utterly stupid.
This is it. Not to mention people shoot cables and hangers all the time.
Don’t go back. Sounds like they hire retards.
Agreed. Who knows what they’ve seen?
I had a range officer approach me about rapid fire. They said no more than three shots rapid fire. They didn’t say per second or anything else. So it’s kind of your best guess what that means. I shot the baer defense drill clean twice then he said something - no worries. I figured if I was shooting a drill controlled enough to shoot it clean it wasn’t too fast (looking back it’s 13 rounds that was a poor decision). But, I dug out some B8’s and made the best of my time afterwards. What cracks me up is they rent MG’s there - it is what it is. They used to rent 249’s there.
Another range visit years ago I saw guys shooting at a targets groin with an AK pattern rifle at close range the bullets we’re hitting the floor and sparking. Maybe that’s why?
I’d just let it go and go to another range.
God Bless,
Brandon