Im dead set on this build. Im trying to decide if I want to go Kino or regular.
With my shooting style, a 10" handguard at least is optimum.
However I am really wanting a FSB, if I go with that, then I will have only 9 inches of rail space and If I decide to go with a longer handguard later on, is the FSB pins gonna screw that all up?
Also I prefer the shorter gas tube as opposed to a midlength gas system.
I want this upper to be bulletproof and I would really like to have the FSB.
Any feedback from you guys that own them would be appreciated
I was in the same boat as you. Initially, I had the same needs/wants and picked up the Kino. On paper, I liked the idea of it but in practice having the FSB in my line of sight bothered me and I found myself concentrating less on the target and more on the front sight. I also found that I liked gripping the rail right about where the sight base was on the upper.
I ended up pulling the FSB off and installing a Daniel Defense MFR rail with Troy flip up sights. Much better for me and it felt a little lighter (or more balanced) than the FSB/MOE/MVG combo I had on before. I really like having the majority of the barrel covered, all of it in this case. In the future I may swap over to a URX III rail on this barrel for S & G’s.
I have a Kino upper that I’ve shot quite a bit. I’m not a ‘high speed’ user or anything, but it is currently my HD setup. I tend to prefer having the FSB, so I like it. I wouldn’t want to live with carbine handguards on a barrel in this length, but I don’t feel like I’m missing anything with the midlength handguards compared to a slightly longer rail.
There’s a bit of extra weight up front with the Kino config, but I like the balance without a silencer mounted. That said, it is a bit front heavy with a silencer (partially due to the barrel length, partially due to the extra weight in this configuration).
I started off with a regular BCM 12.5" upper with Larue 11.0 and I thought it was perfect. Got to top mount my X300 and my can fit damn near perfectly at the end of the rail. Perfection (or so I thought). Then my best friend finally got his Kino with some MOE handguards…
Now I also have a Kino, but with a cutback DD LITE 12.0 FSPM rail that I wasn’t using. I honestly can’t think of a better setup. I’m using a sling mount as a handstop/reference point on the bottom rail with a 6P/VTAC combo on the 9o’clock rail. This gives me the perfect amount of space on the rail to get my preffered grip.
I plan on building a lightweight 14.5mid version so I don’t have to sweat the NFA stuff as much.
You would have holes from the taper pins (more like channels on the bottom of the barrel, actually). A 10" rail would probably cover the rear most channel but I think the front would still be exposed.
I’m missing it, what lenght barrel?
You say something between an 11.5 and a 14.5 (you are saying “M4” so I am assuming here), and since I don’t see too many 13" barrels out there I assume you are looking at a 12.5. Yes?
If so, I’d opt for a Kino with an FSB cut.
However, I’m not sure I would opt for a 12.5 over an 11.5.
This isnt about what its for, thats not why I started this thread. I wanted help.
The reason for the 12.5", I want something as short as possible without sacrificing velocity and thats too hard on a can as this has the possibility of being a dedicated suppressed HD weapon.
Now I know the difference between the velocity/gas system/length is marginal at best…I still want it. I want to go as short as possible and still have the length to reach out to further distances. I also dont want any premature wear on a $1,000 suppressor which is AGAIN why Im inquiring about the Kino vs. Standard 12.5" barrel length
I hear the barrel length of 12.5" is optimal for an SBR and its performance is incredible.
