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gimme the dumb grunt version please.
Thank you for the links. I had been told of such a EO a few heard ago, but never looked it up.
And then add some pictures for me.
I read the stuff and looked at the group. So some tree huggers don’t have to pay parking tickets??
Some more food for thought. . .
HOP, I’m reposting this from a post of mine in the prepper forum. Let me know and I will remove it if you feel it will derail your thread.
COG, continuity of government refers to the continued functioning of constitutional government under all circumstances. I liken our goverment to Cyberdyne System’s Skynet of The Terminator fame as they are self aware and will do ANYTHING to ensure their survival.
A few examples:
Operation Garden Plot
Operation Cable Splicer
HOLD ON TO YOUR DOOKIE, IT’S ABOUT TO GET SPOOKY. . .
EO, Executive Orders:
10995–Federal seizure of all communications media in the United States;
10997–Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private;
10998–Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment;
10999–Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways;
11000–Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires;
11001–Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private;
11002–Empowers the Postmaster General to register all men, women and children in the United States of America;
11003–Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft;
11004–Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish Forced Relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as “unsafe,” establish new locations for the populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds;
11005–Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private;
11051–Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control in case of “National Emergency”).
Golly. Looks like the United States Government has gotten too powerful. I wonder when that happened?
That’s some scary shit Moose. Nazi-ism at it’s finest. I can see civil war breaking out if any of that was executed outside of a foreign military attacking CONUS.
I still don’t understand what 12986 is about… International Organizations and their property in the US are immune from search and seizure?
And another thing I don’t understand after reading about OP: Garden Plot… why is the law of Posse Comitatus even in existence if we can simply “suspend” it when we want? In that case why don’t we just suspend it indefinitely so we can use units like ACE and Devgru and SAD to hunt home grown terrorists and in response to internal hostage situations…?
I was always under the impression that we formed CAG after seeing the impact the SAS had on its own soil… yet we can’t use them in the same capacity?.. there is no other country that has such a stupid law.
Be very careful what you wish for, they are trying to make US (You and Me) the homegrown terrorists. Though we would not harm a soul that is not trying to hurt me or mine. I do not know about you but I do not want a 5 man team of our most elite hunting me because I take the Constitution seriously.
At first blanche it may seem silly that US troops can’t be used in the US, but when you consider our countries construction (states being part of a union) and the historical consquences of Roman armies being used at home, you can start to see why people are a bit nervous to see US troops used at home. I’d rather run the risk of taking the time to at least go thru some bereaucratic hurdles before the use of US troops on our soil, rather than seen our current SWAT police culture taken up a few notches.
Lefties complain about the ‘imperial’ use of our armed forces, I see it as a better option than letting them play at home.
I understand exactly what you guys are saying, and to be honest I completely agree. But my point, however badly it was stated, was why do we have laws if they can be “suspended.” If its a law, then its a law, there shouldn’t be ways around it. It’s one or the other, not some of both. It just seems like legal trickery.
Well… you have the right to no illegal search or seizure… buuuutttt if we feel you are up to no good we’re comin in… just a lot of bureaucratic double speak… pretty much leaves nothing to trust or rely on
Now let’s take that a step further…suppose they provoke that civil war behind the scenes so that they have an excuse to implement all or most of that.
Keeping the Reynolds Wrap headgear handy, what if the flash mobs are being provoked behind the scenes with plans to keep escalating them so that “they” get the “fundamental transformation of America” that they want?
I know I’ve probably been listening to Glenn Beck too much but when you’re out on the North Forty you start really thinking about these things.
Kind of ‘moral’ people, unless it really impacts them negatively, then anything goes.
It would be interesting to know what some of the triggers are. Simple head of FEMA deciding, the President, the cabinet, congessional leaders.
I’m comfortable with the duality, as long as the trigger is firm, understood and visible. Military has lots of cool toys and gear and experienced people to handle issues that our first repsonders only see in drills.
Still don’t know what this EO in the OP has to do with anything?
While America’s attention was focused on “Wienergate”, this is what POTUS was doing under the table, notice how it didn’t make the news?
In preparation for. . .
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
According to Eric Haney (a founding member of SFOD-D) this is why FBI created HRT. He wrote about this in his book Inside Delta Force. They cross trained at Bragg with SFOD-D for this very reason. HRT are the guys who shot an unarmed Vicky Weaver dead as she held her infant daughter at their home on Ruby Ridge.
There have been multiple flyers handed out by DHS, FBI, and BATFE on terrorists abroad and brother, they are not looking for men in there 20’s to 40’s of Middle Eastern decent wielding box cutters and taking flying lessons! They specifically are WARNING about white “patriots” who support Ron Paul, buy MREs, ammo, semi-automatic “assault rifles”, and who quote the CONSTITUTION for God’s sake!
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf
http://www.constitution.org/abus/le/miac-strategic-report.pdf
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg
Your tracking bro! The US are experts at False Flag Operations. It will take a “trigger” event, man made by factions from within to look as a pandemic, terrorists attack, or “natural disaster” (via HAARP) to implement this. . .
You beat me to it, Rome is a shining example of this. It is NEVER a good thing for a nation to be policed by it’s military. Just read any history book.
See the first portion of my post to Reagans Rascals. ![]()
I am still trying to understand the original EO… from what I am gathering… it was an under the table way of them assuring they could enforce an eminent domain type of seizure of rural lands, forests, and farms in the name of “national security” during times of global unrest for future “National Sustainability”…?
Please explain this as moronically as you can because I obviously don’t get it
Agenda 21 does sound a little foreboding though:
Principle 5
All States and all people shall cooperate in the essential task of
eradicating poverty as an indispensable requirement for sustainable
development, in order to decrease the disparities in standards of living and
better meet the needs of the majority of the people of the world.
Principle 8
To achieve sustainable development and a higher quality of life for all
people, States should reduce and eliminate unsustainable patterns of production
and consumption and promote appropriate demographic policies.
that to me sounds like the national harvests of the Soviet Union… quit working on what you are doing and go to work for the “whole”
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Thanks, that clarified it. However, in the end… if and when it happens… what could there really be left to do about it? Take up arms and hide in the Rockies? which would by the way, probably then be owned by the Swiss or the Weegies or even the Chileans… it just seems like a big cluster fuck that isn’t worth worrying about because there’s nothing to do to prevent it… if it happens it happens… like a massive Asteroid headed right for us…