Hey guys. I have my full size M&P9 is all done up with a Venom. But it’s too big to carry for me.
What’s the smallest 9mm you guys like recommend that I could still put an rmr or 507c
I’d prefer it to be something with a lot of support like the Glock but I’m open to all suggestions
You can put a RMR on a Glock 43.
So much depends on your body size, how you dress, how/where you carry, etc.
I carry a G17 OWB with RM 06 plus two mags - no probleemo. YMMV. Those who do AIWB - which isn’t for me - seem to get by with the most options.
What are some of your specifics?
geezer john
Post a pic of how you carry.
Way to many variable unknown at this point.
Is the gun too big or did the red dot make it too big?
Why is it too big? Is it printing or uncomfortable?
Why do you want a red dot?
What holster do you use?
What belt do you use?
what kind of clothes do you wear?
Answers to the above will help us help you.
Personally, I carry a g19 with rmr in normal clothes. If I wear a tight t-shirt or tucked fitted shirt (business casual/formal) I wear a shield with iron sights.
Well Bowie custom does G26’s with RMR’s. And like was said above 43’s are out there.
I’ve been carrying an RMR CZ (P10c) in OWB, but it’s Winter.
Doesn’t add much to the “felt” overall dimension, however that is certainly subjective.
Haven’t “been made” FWIW.
I carry either CZ P07/09 with RMR concealed year around. Both will conceal under just a t shirt as long as the shirt isn’t skin tight.
Hi John,
Well I’m 6’9” and about 250 (gym rat) so I have the size but two main things. I live in the desert so I rarely wear a lot of clothing. Tank tops during the summer and usually a tee shirt during the winter.
And I know it’s psychological but I really dislike wearing loose shirts. I just hate the feeling of swimming in my clothes.
But a 43(or maybe even a 26) sounds like a good place to start looking.
Oh, my current setup: I’m 100% appendix inside the waist band carry unless I open carry which is very very very rare. I carry a kel-tec 9(I know, I know, but thousands of rounds of training and it’s 100%). I usually wear shorts with a leather belt and a tight(ish) tank top or tee.
As to why I mounted a red dot on my M&P 9- well I fought the idea for a while. I even didn’t like the first experience I had. I couldn’t find the dot. But deep deep down even though I had that initial bad taste in my mouth I knew it was the superior sighting system for what I’m doing.
So Like I said I got one mounted on my M&P, got 1500 rounds of 9mm and got to a point where I now feel comfortable using it.
I’ll do the same with the carry gun I get. And, of course keep practicing and doing dry fire practice.
Wow. I can’t believe you guys carry full size guns. I love it, don’t get me wrong, it just is so uncomfortable when I shove my M&P 9 in the front if my pants and I’m a tad nervous spending the money on a good holster setup and not liking it.
Speaking of that, trex arms? They make a good holster for aiwb right? And it also has the sport for a spare mag.
Been carrying a G26 and Shield RDS for approaching four years. Goes together like PB&J.
Previously I had a G19 and a Trijicon RDS. The color shift on the RM07 didn’t work well for me. The size of the G26 also works better for AIWB without giving up anything of the advantages of a RDS.
Like 90% of life, the combo works great for me. The ergonomics work, a G26 with a 12 rd Magpul magazine maximizes my shooting grip and the AIWB envelope is only slightly larger than a J Frame or Kahr PM9. It may not work for you or anyone else.
I strongly endorse a serious shooting regime intended to adapt you to the RDS. I initially did 1000 dry fire/400 live rounds and found that was insufficient. My second series was closer to 2000 dry fire/1000 live rounds to meet the desired mastery. Those numbers probably vary by person, but develop clear benchmarks and hold yourself to them.
Why not an M&P Shield if you like the M&P stuff. Shield 2.0 is out recently I recall.
I second the Shield or recommend the M&P M2.0 3.6" model. Or maybe a CZP10 S.
I selected a few things that I find important. I am a smaller dude than you are (6’1" - 185), I don’t wear very loose shirts. I also have very high concealment requirements most of the time when I carry, with less stringent requirements [some indistinct bulging and nonspecific printing] during casual hours.
I would suggest looking at a slimline Glocks (43, 43x and 48) and RMS sights. I have a G26, a G19, and a G19x all set for RMR and they are not easy to conceal in AIWB. As all double stack pistols, they do create a colostomy effect to some extent, RMR housing prints more or less depending where the sight is positioned, and suppressor heights irons print if placed at the rear of a slide. RMS sights don’t require tall backups and slimline Glocks don’t bulge out as much. I am waiting on a release of a waterproof RMSw sight and if it turns out reliable, my G26/RM07 setup is in trouble.
When you say leather belt, if its not a gun belt, you need to get one. I like the nexbelt gun belts, but there are a lot if options. You dont need baggy clothes, a shirt that is tight in the chest and loose around the stomach is fine- problem is with stretchy t shirts that hug the waistline, youll need something thinner to wear those IMO.
I carried a full sized m&p for years in tshirts that fit well IMO. 6’ 170lbs
You’re right. I do need to address the belt situation.
My G45 with an RM07 should be here any day and I plan on CCWing it at least some times.
I’ll try both appendix in a Tier 1 holster and at 4-5 in a Crossbreed or something similar and see what works best.
TRex is known for Instagram marketing and not really for quality. I know several people who bought their holsters and had issues with the fit not being very good for their pistol, or needing finishing or slight modification to get them to snap in properly. One guy said his had ragged edges that jabbed into his skin and needed sanding and that the retention wasn’t very tight. YMMV, of course.
This is suprising to me. I bought one (ragnarock light-compatable) based off input from an SME here and its been great.
Fit and finish/edges are great, its thick and durable. Retension ranges from none to almost un-drawable (sp?) based on screw tesion. It has decent retension without a light as well.
That said, I havent read of any other issues, did he send it back/contact them?
Fwiw- I prefer a rcs vanguard2 for appendix- havent tried the sidecar.
**** that little cultist faggot. Their CS was absolutely atrocious.
I’m borrowing a Trex Raptor from a buddy of mine, my SW M&P 9 and X300 fit great. Zero complaints it’s a good holster