I’d like to get my hands on one but from what I’ve read most aren’t dependable. Anyone here have hands on experience with one? Thanks in Advance!
My hands on experience with the ArmaLite AR-10’s has been mostly good. I had one carbine that didn’t run quite right back in 1999, I think. I sent it back to ArmaLite and 3 weeks later it was perfect.
Since then I’ve probably owned and shot 10 uppers and lowers in some sort of configuration. I usually build the uppers now from parts, so the QC is higher than possible in any factory.
I think one of the other mods recently got an AR-10 carbine and has said he was happy with it.
I love mine, and wouldn’t change anythng I’ve done with them.
+1 Armalite/Noveske
I’ve got like 15k through my DPMS LR-308 and it’s just bad ass. JP trigger and my own lightened carrier.
Look at the JP Enterprises’ 308’s as well as the DPMS LR’s. You won’t be disappointed.
Rich
Not an AR, but as a 7.62 NATO battle rifle, the FN FAL is hard to beat… Look for a nice Springfield SAR-48, they can be found for around 1K and are one of the best rifles ever made…
Just my .02
B
The FAL is the greatest of the .308 battle rifles yes, but for a .308 AR I’ve heard nothing but good about the DPMS Lr308’s.
I recently got a POF P-308. I really like the rifle, but have only had it a few weeks and have only put 200 or so rounds through it so I can’t say yet if it will be a reliable gun.
So far, it’s very accurate at the short distances I’ve shot it and has had no malfunctions.
It’s really easy to clean as well. It’s expensive though and quality with POF’s seems like it can be spotty.
HTH,
Sean
First let me say “Welcome aboard!”
Second, let me ask you to please take some time to familiarize yourself with our intended goals and objectives of this website. Qualified, firsthand information is absolutely king…
If you have some way to expand on your thoughts above, giving us some context of your use of either the DPMS LR-308 or FAL, we would all appreciate it.
Thanks!
My statistical sampling with the AR10’s was relatively small, but between a factory DPMS and factory Armalite, I’d be far more confident in a professional non-factory build of either.
I’m building up an ultra-lightweight DPMS 308 right now (mags are a bit more available these days). But I’m probably going to grab an AR10 receiver within the next month or so. I asked one of the more well known AR smiths his opinion on the DPMS vs Armalite quality, he didn’t feel there was a demonstrable difference when he got his hands on them.
IMHO they are not dependable enough as a fighting gun. Why we still use them as such (KAC SR25) is a mystery to me. The best AR platform for reliability and durability is still the MK12 SPRish AR with 77gr. MK262.
I thought the 6.8 might have been the cartridge to bridge the gap but “reports from Crane” indicate bizarre parts breakage at relatively low (in relation to 5.56) round counts. I would like to see someone perform independent test on the 6.8 SPC-in relation to durability.
The AR10’s can be made very accurate and are fine for range or bench shooting, if that is what you want. If you want something “Tactical” beyond a MK12 or clone in 5.56 then the best alternative is still a quality bolt action rifle with good glass in 7.62NATO/.300WM/.338Lapua/.338Norma etc.
Rana,
Just kinda curious, but what “reports from Crane” are you talking about? I really don’t know who/what Crane is. Sorry for the ignorance, but I am about to get into the 6.8 and am very interested in any and all information about this round. Is this a ‘military report’ or something similar? Is it public? Can you provide a link to that report?
I really like what I have read on this round. I think with the right bullet/powder and correct barrel twist/chamber, this round could possibly be a very positive asset to our forces. There has been a lot of testing going on over at 68forums.com and they have gotten some very impressive results with this cartridge. That said, they are a group of civilians doing this on their own dime and I would really like to see the government take a serious look at this round for further development. I would really like the government to also not brush aside what others have done with the development of this cartridge with regards to barrel twist/chamber configurations. The original SAAMI specs were unfortunately turned in by Remington without the suggestions from the original designers!!! The specs Remington gave makes the chambers very much like the 223 vs 5.56 in that they are very tight and way too short leade. Also, the barrel twists (shown as optional in the SAAMI specs) used by manufactures in most of todays are from left over 270 Winchester specs of 1:10. The use of shorter/lighter bullets in the 6.8 beg to have a slower twist of minimum 1:11 to 1:12…
Like I said, there has been a lot of cartridge development over the last few years that the original specs of this round by the original developers have been shown to be good or even exceeded!!!
Thanks,
Kelly (Cohibra45)
Sorry for the hijack!!! Now back to our previous program…
Thanks David!!! I would be really interested in what parts broke???
My DPMS LR-308 is setup as a target rifle and performs well. I only have about 150 rounds through it and keep it meticulously clean.
It is accurate but very tight.
I have a DPMS LR .308 (Tac 20) and have 400 down the pipe with absolutely no problems, even with various types and brands of ammo.
Hope this helps.
My DPMS LR-308, freaked out by yours truly has about 15k (as stated above) with zero issues. Shoots well under a minute with zero worries.
For a “battle” rifle, over a bolt action, a ton of my snipers in Afghanistan are still using M14’s with no problems.
Rich
I have plenty of trigger time with an M-14 and they’re fine rifles but they seem low tech nowadays and I want something lighter
.308 AR’s aren’t on the “light” side.
For recreational shooting a plain jane Armalite AR10 is not a bad choice for the money.
Then you definitely want to go LR-308. There are some “tricks” to lighten them up a bit. Mine’s only like 1-1.5# heavier than my 18" AR.
Rich
The SR25 worked well enough for my brother.