I think maybe you’re thinking of a UBR?
Indeed I was.
He is, and he is right the UBR is a very good stock, most people don’t realize that it is less than 7oz heavier than a Magpul ACS, and only about 6.5oz heavier than a Vltor EMod. USMC03 wrote a good article about the different stocks here. Where he says:
As a general rule I use:
Magpul UBR stock on 14.5" - 16" barrels with longer rail systems (10.0 - 13.2)
While overall weight reduction is typically a good thing, having a carbine or rifle that balances well and performs is also a good thing. The ACS, UBR, EMod and SOPMOD can offer advantages to first fit the shooter and then to balance and carbine and improve feel. I have had M4 stocks, CTRs, SOPMOD, EMod, M93B, UBRs and the best feel I get for a Recce type carbine with a long rail and an optic is the UBR.
When it comes to stocks, weights, carbines, rifles and balance don’t forget that shooters are all different too and what might work for you at 5’9" and 170lbs may feel very different for me at 5’11" and 230lbs.
Cameron
I read that article. a very good primer…
I don’t want to hijack this thread any more but I was asking what makes the SOPMOD such a desirable stock. it’s roughly 50% more expensive than an Emod or ACS and still, some people prefer them.
I just wanted to know what I don’t know… 
they do tend to fit snugger, and there’s no jab at the cheekweld to catch your beard hairs.
they were the first stock to come with rubber butt pads, to have storage space, to widen the cheekweld, and to fit snugly… but they’re now not the only stock that does these things.
as i mentioned above, i’ve stopped buying them. new, at least- i’ll still buy one used for a good deal… but vltor pretty much came along with something better for less.
In my experience they fit just as tight as Magpul stocks yet only need one latch, and they are very tough stocks. Many people including myself have felt the ACS felt a bit cheap, and I don’t like the way the storage tubes are closed off with those little rubber plugs. They tended to come loose pretty easy on the one I had.
But I would not buy one new…in fact Ive come into quite a bit of them because they come on LMT lowers and KAC guns at a price that makes them cheaper than the alternatives being bought stand alone. Ive sold quite a few of them for a really good price. I would not buy a new one for $200 if I was looking at one.
the iMod?
I get where you’re coming from. I simply can’t justify the price but if one landed in my lap… :jester:
I was mostly trying to figure out what is so special about the SOPMOD over the Emod as I am the proud owner of not one but TWO of these guys (one black, one FDE) and I haven’t really warmed up to the ACS yet.
I like the Emod but it’s a heavy bitch. I’m keeping one to use with an A5 extension and buffer kit and selling or trading off the other one for an iMod as soon as I figure out which one I don’t want…
you can pull the rubber pad on the emod to lighten them up. i generally did this on my sopmods. not actually to lighten them up- rather just because i like a hard buttstock- but it was an added benny.
i agree with belmont that they’re tough stocks. i think the sopmod is probably the last of all telescoping stocks that’ll break under hard use. i’ve never broken one, and never seen one broken that wasn’t hit by an IED (and there have been many more than have survived IEDs) or run over by a track vehicle or something. i’ve seen a few broken M4s, and even broken at least two myself… i haven’t broken a vltor yet- but i haven’t been using them that long- just comparing appearances, i’d guess the sopmod is significantly less likely to break.
so if you’re trying to build the most bomb-proof weapon you can, the sopmod is definitely the right choice. and, again, like belmont said, if you buy them attached to complete lowers, it’s actually a pretty good value. you get a spiffy LMT-marked lower, one of the best LPKs not available, arguably the best receiver extension available, AND the toughest stock there is.
This is the 2nd Recce I’ve built using Noveske bbls. Excellent shooters! My first Recce put a huge dent on the woodchuck population around here.
I like the SOPMOD because it is Mil issue gear and I can add some more weight to the aft end by sticking in batteries or whatever. Its locking lever is right where my muscle memory thinks it should be, so I don’t have to do much manipulation to make the stock slide.
Woodchuck Slayer:
So, sgtlmj, you find the lower-power variable works for you? What ranges were you using it at?
Okay, moving on to triggers: I have a Geissele DMR trigger on my SPR and like it. Is the DMR good for a Recce, or would the SSA be better?
Depends on what you plan on using it for, but to maintain the versatility and durability of the 16" / Recce platform, an SSA would be best. DMR triggers in carbines tend to work against the user by not giving that tactile “pull” feeling (especially when firing rapidly) and also don’t tend to last as long as their combat-grade trigger counterparts.
The DMR is a match-grade trigger that is used on combat guns for extreme precision roles, but it is not necessarily a “combat trigger.” The SSA is mid-ground two-stage combat trigger that can be used in a precision role.