Have ya’ll heard about this? By May 2008 everyone will have a new drivers license that contains an RFID (radio frequency id) chip. Without it you could not board a plane, open or access your bank account, enter a goverment building, and etc. There are several states opposing it such as Georgia, Maine, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, and New Mexico. I hope it doesen’t happen but we all know that Big Brother usually gets what he wants. :mad:
Wait til they say that chip imbedded ID does not work well enough .That someome could still use an ID other than their own. That an implant in your hand or forehead is the only way personal ID is secure from theft or misuse. In the name of safety and security the vary young and eldely will be the first to receive the device. When people reach a certain age they recieve the implant. After a couple generations everyone has it. It will be initialy a misdimaenor to tamper with the device. But when everyone has it the law will be upgraded to a feloney. Kind of like how income tax was implemented. This would be considered consperisy crap if we did not read about such things being put to practice periodicly.
North Carolina also already has RFID going into all new drivers licenses.
Being in NM I have heard of this. I don’t understand what is so bad about it. Sounds very ‘tinfoil hat’ to me. NM has a large problem with ID thieft and if this can help I’m for it. I don’t see what all the tinfoil is for.
If YOU think it will protect YOU, then use it. Please don’t require me to use it. OK?
How is one card different than my Drivers lic?
An LEO in BFE Alaska can look me up and find out what he wants to know.
How is a NATIONAL card different that what a STATE card?
Sorry, I dont see people at McDonalds or Wal-Mart acting like the thrid riech like many people want to beleive will happen. Where does it say check points at the Michigan-Ohio border for ‘paper checks’ are to be funded?
Cops and .gov’s do it now with what we have now.
BFD.
Ah, Hillary (Anti-Christ), and now the mark of the Beast (RFID). I guess I can run up the credit cards because it won’t matter soon.
“I don’t see what the big deal is.” I’m sure you won’t until the sign over the gate reads “Arbeit Macht Frei.”
M_P
Great so every time the card gets bent, comes in contact with a magnet, gets wet, I have to go get another ID. I already have to pay $10 for a replacement drivers license; I paid almost $200 for a Passport, how much will this “RFID” cost? I will not buy one of these national IDs out of my own pocket because stupid F-ing politicians on both sides of the isle can’t make up their minds about anything common sense.
Starting a Militia doesn’t sound like such a bad idea these days:D
I am wondering just how much more - red-blooded Americans can take … before we collectively react - they found a truck load of illegals the other day all shot up - I was wondering when them guys down there were gonna snap. I dont want hear about anybody murdering anybody but that is exactly what its going to take to make the people @ DHS sleep at night. If the illegals were not marching in 2x2 formation across the border everyday we would not even be discussing get micro-chipped like some rescue dog. IMO
You guys crack me up sometimes.
I live in New Mexico, finally My state is looking out for Me. Hopefully this will not pass. Because if it does, whats next?
Read David Drake’s “Lacey” series of stories.
Remember that one of the first things Hitler did when he gained control of Germany was make a national id card mandatory. “PAPERS PLEASE!!” If you would have told a German what his country would do over the next 10 or so years he probably would have said that what you were saying sounded “very tin foil hat” to him. 
Who is “They” and where did this happen?
You know it is just not dangerous enough for illegals in the U.S. I know Mexico sucks in all but didn’t a bunch of people think the same thing about British Rule a while back and do something about it?
Maybe instead of finding a way to keep them out based on national security bullshit, we should make them scared to even try to come in illegally.
I gladly welcome Mexicans and any other race or religion into our country as long as you come legal and don’t “F” things up for those already here.
Hearing about a truck-load of illegals all shot up doesn’t surprise me at all, it will get to that point if the gov. does not act. Those GREAT AMERICAN MINUTE MEN are going to go on the offensive sooner or later…if they haven’t already.
I agree whole-heartedly with you and I saw the article in the
St Louis Post -Dispatch last Wednsday. It was in the ‘National’ section I just scanned over the photo and article I was looking for bullet holes to figure out what kind of rounds were used to determine if I felt any compassion for them. You know if they would have been shot 200 times apiece with a .50cal my reaction would be ‘Poor Bastards… shouldn’t have been sneaking around.’
The photo was taken too far away and its caption said all I needed to know …
BORDER RETRIBUTION IS BEGINNING
You have to be able to read between the lines to see it that way. I found the article for you from FOXNEWS.COM
"TUCSON, Ariz. — Gunmen stopped a pickup truck full of illegal immigrants, shot some and took the rest captive Thursday in an attack that left at least three men dead and two people wounded, authorities said.
Authorities were trying to determine who the gunmen were and said some of the immigrants remained missing.
The men shot three people, one fatally, along a known smuggling corridor near Tucson, then forced several other immigrants in the group to leave with them, Pima County sheriff’s officials said.
The bodies of two of those immigrants were found about 10 miles north in the cab of the pickup truck that had been carrying the group.
Two men who were not injured were in custody and telling deputes what happened, and the other immigrants had not been found by midday Thursday.
The crime was similar to a robbery Wednesday night more than 70 miles south, near the Mexican border, said Rick Kastigar, the Pima County sheriff’s criminal investigations chief. In that incident, four men carrying assault weapons and wearing ski masks robbed 18 immigrants, but no one was reported injured
Investigators did not immediately know a motive for Thursday’s attack, but gangs of bandits are known to roam border areas preying on illegal immigrants as they cross into the country. Feuding among smuggling organizations also is not uncommon, sometimes involving demands for ransoms from the immigrants relatives to gain their freedom.
Thursday morning’s attack occurred on a dirt road near the Silverbell Mine, about 20 miles northwest of Tucson, said Rick Kastigar, the Pima County sheriff’s criminal investigations chief.
The immigrants were heading north when four men armed with assault rifles in another vehicle forced the truck to stop, Kastigar said. During the confrontation, one man was killed, another was shot in the hand — losing several fingers — and a woman was shot in the chest and suffered a neck injury.
The two wounded immigrants were taken to a hospital with “very, very serious injuries,” said sheriff’s Sgt. James Ogden
Cut and Pasted from FoxNews.com
And what this has to do with Government tagging us like deer on a animal reserve is vague but it applies to the topic in an off-handed way kinda of like… if
‘Fatbody would have kept his padlock on his footlocker there would be no thieves?’ Kinda like that …
Michael
+1 bazillion
ETA: It’s ‘for the children’
What I want to know is how is this going to “propel us towards a surveillance society” http://www.realnightmare.org/ as the ACLU puts it. It’s not like the damn this is going to be linked to GPS. If the .gov wants info on you they’re going to get it; Real ID Act or not.
I’ll agree that is a poorly thought out act at this point, but I haven’t read anything about RFID imbedded into the Real IDs. As far as I can gather only California is stupid enough to debate broadcasting private info via RFIDs .http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_05.php#003586
That is absolutely stupid.
It makes me think… how much of our personal info is readily available to the public? Anyone with a name and a phone book can find out addresses, and with Google, forget about it. Privacy is looking way too much like a privilege instead of a right these days, especially with all theses MySpace geeks.
In short, I see your point, but I think it’s getting blown out of proportion. We are far from becoming Nazis
Hey, what I would tell my local or state government is this, “Go ahead and make my information available to the public, but along with it post my background information along with how many guns I own”. I would bet that my house never gets robbed and half my neighbors would stop their dogs from shitting in my yard.
I currently live in Hawaii where you must be FBI fingerprinted to buy a gun, and every gun has a 14 day waiting period which you can not even apply for until your local gun store has the gun in hand.
I miss my home state of Michigan where you can go to any gun store and walk out the door 20 minutes later with 10 guns.
The fact is, it’s the government taking an unnecessary step to increase their power over law-abiding citizens. It won’t help keep illegals out, or terrorists. It’s not as if them using fake IDs is the problem, if they can just walk across a few miles away from an “official” crossing. What it will do is provide a false sense of security to the sheep, and cement another building block in place for a more comprehensive and intrusive system later. Kinda like saying “well we’re only going to ban machine guns”. Sure…for now.
Ever heard the story of the camel and the tent? Before too long, the whole damn camel is in your tent and you don’t have room to breathe.