Black Front and Rear Square Notch Sight Set with Tritium Insert.
Precision CNC machined from heat treated 4140 bar stock, these sights are designed to withstand the rigors of combat. The rear sight features a square notch for fast alignment with our tritium dot front sights. The rear sight is serrated at 40 lpi to reduce glare in varied lighting conditions. The front sight blade is contoured and dehorned for comfortable handling and carry.
The rear sights are a standard .156 width and feature a square notch. The .156 is a very fast notch width for combat shooting.
Our front sight is standard at .125" wide with 40lpi serrations to provide crisp visual focus and glare reduction. The .215" height is our standard for combat sights and provides point of aim, point of impact from 25 meters to 100 meters using the Redback One standard handgun, a Glock 17.
Hey, can anyone explain the benefits of using a blacked out rear sight? I have been wondering about this as I have seen some competition shooters use all black sights. Thanks
Largely a matter of preference, but one reason we’re seeing subdued rear sights and shockingly bright front sights become popular with various manufacturers is that the bright front sight naturally draws the eye to it, where the focus belongs. Also, with the 2-dot sights or the front-only dot night sights, the user cannot accidentally misalign the sights laterally in the dark to the point where one of the rear dots is mistaken for the middle dot because the muzzle is so far left or right that the front dot is to the left or right of the entire rear sight.
No, thats almost just like a 10-8 combat sight except with a square notch.
There is only so much deviation we are going to see between pistol sight designs and for people that dig 10-8’s craftsmanship but want a square notch, these sights are a sure winner.
Here is the background and concept for these sights.
I have been looking to develop a set of Combat Sights for pistols for a couple of years now. I conducted a ton of research and tests of other brands, heights, widths, tritium, no tritium, serrated, non serrated etc to find the best combination that fits our shooting program methodology and TTP’s.
The result was that I needed a reputable sight manufacturer that produced high quality handgun sights that had the desire to work with us in the development of this project.
Enter Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance. I met Hilton at the 2010 Shot Show in Las Vegas and discussed the project with him. He was excited to help out and the project up and running.
We went back and forward to establish the parameters of the sights, height, width, etc. I finally decided upon the following specs;
REAR SIGHT FEATURES
Rear sight had be serrated IOT reduce glare.
Rear had to be .156 wide IOT provide a good combat sight picture.
Rear had to have the ability to provide positive grip on equipment during injury drills and one handed manipulations.
Rear had to have set screw to increase stability under combat conditions.
Rear had to accept co-branding logos.
Rear had to have square notch which supports our methodology of rapid sight alignment.
FRONT SIGHT FEATURES
Front had to be serrated IOT reduce glare.
Front had to be .125 for fast combat sight picture and long range work.
Front had to be .215 high for POA/POI at all ranges from 25-100yrds.
Front had to contain a .60 vial of tritium for low-light application. (We work to a 90% sight picture solution during presentation so that you will always have the front inside the rear notch every time!)
Front had to have positive grip capability during injury drills or one handed application, particularly for weapons with heavy recoil springs).
The 10-8 platform was the perfect fit! We made slight changes to the existing platform to massage our specs.
The result was the RB1 Combat Pistol Sight.
Many thanks to Hilton for taking on this project with us. Recent test results have concluded that we were correct in our specs with both the G19 and G17 platforms performing perfectly with a variety of 9mm ammo from ranges of 25 yards out to 100 yards
The full field trials report is found on our Facebook page under notes and on the Jason Falla blog.
We are working to produce a set of similar sights for the HK platform for a very specific customer. This may take a little while to sort out and deliver.
I will update you guys during each stage so that you can track the timeline to production.
I got two sets in the mail on Tuesday (for a G19 and G17). These things kick ass guys. They replaced my Heinie Straight Eights, and Ameriglo Pro-Operators. The Ameriglos I can’t stand because of the three-dot set up and because they aren’t serrated (which IMO makes a huge difference). The Heinies are great, but the biggest difference between them and the RB1 sights (other then the blacked out rear) is the front tritium insert. On the Heinies, the tritium is right in the middle of the sight, where as the RB1 it is as high up as possible. This makes it much less distracting and allows me to use the dot almost as an index point for where to hold my front sight on target.
I am curious about your statement three above, both because 9mm Glocks often shoot high with a .215 sight, and as a result Hilton offers three front sight heights with .215 being the shortest, plus .235 and .250. Also, do you mean POA/POI at 25 and 100 yards, or usable out to 100 yards?
I might give these a look for one of my 19’s and T&E them against the Amerglo GL’s that I am running on all 3 of my 19’s. Would be interested to see how they perform at 25 yd on b8’s.
We conducted field trials on Tuesday with a Glock 19 and Glock 17 both fitted with RB1 sights. Our test ammo was as follows;
M882 Mil-spec 9mm
Speer Lawman 115gr ball 9mm
Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP 9mm
Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P JHP 9mm
We started the assessment at 25 yards. I fired both guns with all 4 ammo natures and the results were that all rounds fired POA/POI which was Midline High Thoracic.
We moved back to 50 yards and fired the same serials. The results were the same. All rounds fired POA/POI, Midline High Thoracic.
We moved back to 80 yards and fired the same serials and again the results were the same. Midline High Thoracic.
We moved back to the final distance of 100 yards and fired the same serials and yet again all rounds were POA/POI. Midline High Thoracic!
The point was well proven that will this combination on both the Glock 19 and 17 platforms, our sight specifications will shoot POA/POI from 25 yards all the way to 100 yards.
This was the intent during the development phases of these sights, to find a combination that would shoot this way for these model weapons.
Jason, thank you very much for taking the time to respond to my question. The reason I asked about the 25/100 yard zero, was my experience that, with a 25 yard zero, I would need to hold a fair amount higher on a 100 yard target. As a reality check for my recollection, I went to the Federal web site, and with a 25 yard zero, they show POI to be 9 inches low at 100 yards with their 115 JHP. The reason I am especially interested in this, is I have just started shooting an RMR equipped Glock 17, have a 25 yard zero, but haven’t had a chance to shoot it at 100 yards yet. Any thoughts as to why your Glock/sight combo is so flat shooting?
