Since I’ve finally been able to purchase the barrel I had been searching for, it seems my YHM15 rifle project is finally nearing completion. For those who are not familiar with YHM, I am building a Black Diamond Rifle which will have the following components:
I vote for the rail mounted front sight. The clamp on gas block with the flip up sight would be more prone twisting on the barrel. Not likely, but possible.
Read. Think. Post. <- in that order. I’m sorry, but it seems your “research” failed. Maybe you were misguided. In a valiant attempt to sway you, I suggest you sell everything except the stock (if it’s even designed to fit on a non commercial grade rec ext. I.E. mil spec). Sorry, but I’d rather be a turd TO you then you have that weapon turd ON you.
Ive read here, and other places, that many do not like YHM.
I would like to know your reasons in order to educate myself further.
I always like hearing pro’s/con’s on a manufacturer.
Look at this upper. 906.00 for an upper that has questionable parts. I can buy a Colt 6920 for slightly more than this. I can build an AR with quality parts for about 70.00 more.
Nothing that they make is good. The rails are old technology and the barrels are not milspec and can almost guarantee that the chambers are also not up to spec. They state the BCG’s are “milspec” in which case I would like to see their HP/MPI certifications.
Ok. Well everyone’s opinion’s on YHM aside, that’s what I’m building so if you care to offer input on which sight to buy, then by all means please feel to share; otherwise keep your negative comments to yourself. I appreciate your attempts to “inform” me of what a poor choice I’ve made and how YHM ranks only slightly higher than a pile of steaming dog crap, however given that the build is nearly complete, it’s neither practical or realistic to start over. I hate the thought of even mentioning the Aero Precision carbine that I also have in the works.
Please don’t get me wrong, it’s not that I don’t appreciate constructive input. If there are specific issues that can be cited as matter of fact, not someone’s opinion or speculation that should give cause for concern then by all means please let’s hear your concerns about YHM. Otherwise, negative comments are neither constructive or helpful, even much less appreciated.
Iraqgunz is a highly qualified armorer that has repaired more ARs than you or I will ever see in our entire lives. If he says YHM isn’t good, there are reasons (He has even given a couple reasons why he doesn’t like them) and you’d be well advised to listen to what he says.
The fact of the matter is that YHM isn’t worth the price, and for about the same money you can get top of the line equipment made a reputable company that isn’t cutting corners.
The feedback I’m getting misses the entire point of the thread. Assuming I were to take everyone’s advice and sell it, the rifle still needs sights. So that leads me back to the original question, which remains unanswered. Which sights?
As to the questions concerning research, I started this a few months ago before joining the forum (last week). To be very candid, this is the first I’ve heard anything negative about YHM. Quite to the contrary, I’ve heard the complete opposite. I’ve spoken to several people who own them and YHM’s have received glowing reviews from everyone I’ve spoken to, including two separate gunsmiths. Largely it was the recommendations of the individuals that I spoke with that swayed me towards YHM, as opposed to Spikes, or whatever else. Frankly the only negative I’ve heard has to do with price. So if Iraqigunz or anybody else has specifics they can share…please share. As near as I can tell, there isn’t any data that suggests YHM is inferior to BCM, La Rue, Colt, et all…
People will back up their sub par guns to the end. No one likes hearing they spent money on shit. They tend to be naieve and closed off to the idea that their
“Cheaper than a Colt and just as good” rifle isnt as good and wont hold up might not have been the best choice.
A buddy of mine sold his Plumcrazy rifle and bought a YHM just like yours.
It has been a headache from day one. First, the rear takedown spring/detent fell out at the range. He fired at a target for about 20 rounds and when he walked back to the truck it separated.
A few weeks after that, while cleaning, his Forward assist just fell out.
His gas key is FAR from staked properly.
His castle nut didnt even COME staked. (from factory)
He called me the other day saying something else happened I forget now.
Be open to these guys advice here. Theyre tryin to help
You are suffering from a classic case of BRSD (Buyers Remorse Stress Disorder) in which you are justifying your failure to do research and compare the specifications.
Nothing we will say to you will influence your choice. Buy a set of Magpul MBUS’s, assemble everything and enjoy your purchase.
If you don’t mind. Please tell us what you paid for your the sum of your parts. Also, does your barrel have a fixed FSB or does it still need an FSB/ gas block?
On thing I will tell you is that the FSB tower that you have pictured above are notorious for not staying locked into place and if they are struck (as in really being used and not safe queens) they will move.
Let me break what you’re saying down. First a Colt 6920 is specifically banned here in CA., so that’s not even an option. However, I do agree with you on that point, it would be my first choice. Rails are old tech? Picatinny rails? What other rails are you referring to? The rail system is the same found on virtually every other AR, so I’m not really sure about what you’re implying. Old tech, doesn’t equal bad tech. The barrels…that may be something we could discuss. What are mil-dpecs for the barrel? From what I recall to be mil-spec (minimal criteria) they must be either 4140, 4150 or chrome vanadium with 1:7 twist and must be chrome lined. YHM barrels meet those specs and they have M4 feed ramps. I haven’t gauged the chamber, so…I can’t argue that point. Have you? If so, please share your findings. That leaves us with HP/MPI certs on the BCG. I can’t argue that point either, but neither of us have any information proving or disproving HP/MPI certs. Mil-spec does call for HP/MPI testing on the BCG and YHM states their BCG’s are mil-spec. I do know that the staking is at least as good as my Bravo Co BCG that I have in my carbine.
I don’t mind having these kinds of conversations, so long as it’s geared around facts and not someone’s opinion. All to often I think people tend to regurgitate what they’ve heard others say, but it’s not always true and sometimes only an opinion at best. Again, if there’s proven data that reveals there is a deficiency then I’m all ears.
So with all of that said, let’s get back to the ACTUAL question. Which sights?
Guess we were typing at the same time. Thanks for the input there. I think you guys are misreading my reaction. I’m not pissed, offended or even defending my purchase with a closed mind and ignoring everything you’re saying. My point was and still is, at this stage it’s a bit late in the game to suggest a different gun. The car has been driven off the dealer’s lot, so to speak, so let’s just deal with what we’ve got. If any issues arise after the fact, I’ll address them accordingly. However, I will say that I am open to selling the gun in favor of something else, if I have cold hard data. I’m a guy that deals in facts. That’s what interests me the most. As far as the cost goes…not really sure about that, haven’t bothered to add it up at this point since the checkbook isn’t closed yet. I still have a gas block to buy, sights, gas tube, etc… Nearly done. One thing I will say…YHM’s are not inexpensive. By the time it’s said and done, I’ll probably have $1500-1700 invested, but that’s just a wild guess.
As far as Plum Crazy goes…they are crap and everyone knows that. Hardly think Plum Crazy is in the same league as YHM. Sucks that your friend is having issues with his. As I said earlier, before this thread I’ve never heard a discouraging word about YHM. Troy sights…yes, I like those too. I considered them, except from what I recall they don’t spring in to place correct? Or is it that they don’t lock in place? There was something along those lines about the Troy that I didn’t care for as much, which lead me back to YHM. Magpul, where that’s where I started. Was going to go Magpul all the way, then I heard all kinds of negative crap about those sights. Stories…not facts. One claim was that a set of Magpul sights melted on someone’s carbine. Hmmm… sounds doubtful to me, but I suppose not entirely impossible. That barrel would have to be glowing red to dissipate that much heat to melt the sights. Then again, what do I know? I’m the guy who bought YHM. Right?
I started out on a 20"Bushmaster and shot it for 2 years before building my M4. By CHANCE, I stumbled across BCM and built an amazing shooter.
Youll get it. Its hard to judge peoples reaction over letters on a screen, the defensive butthurt attitude is usually what follows after a pic of a “New Build” thread by an OP with 2 posts
Magpul will run roughly 100 for a pair, Troy runs 200, KAC runs 240 for the micro and 300 for the 200-600 ones.
I honestly have to say I personally don’t think the front sight matters all that much. I am not talking spec wise but style wise. But again, I am not very experience compare to some of the people here.
Do you have friends that owns different style of BUIS? If so, shoot it b4 you buy it. If not, at least go window shopping and see which ones you like the most. I was very surprised how much I like the KAC micro just by looking through them at a gun show, size wise, how they flip up/down, and adjustment knobs.
You mentioned you are in CA, same here. No matter which area you live in, there are should be at least one good shop now a days that carry a large selection of different sights. But I honestly suggest you just window shop and then gear hunt online, will save you alot of money. Also, the crossroad gun show is a great place for you to see different options in person.
