OK I have a question about Glocks. We have all heard about the BTF issues and how this applied to both Gen 3 and Gen 4. I know it was so bad some of you changed platforms all together. I’m not trying to rehash old threads or issues. I have a GSSF certificate for a reduced price Glock. I’m only interested in the G19 and we all know how those have been.
So my question is what is the latest word on the new Glocks. I’m looking for new information, especially about the Glocks from late last year. I also want to know if the model is Gen 3 or Gen 4. Also what is the preference now the Gen 3 or the Gen 4. I like my wife’s Gen 3 G19. I’ve held a 4 with no back strap. I liked the grip texture but I would put a strap on it making it as big as a Gen 3.
Sorry if the last paragraph is poorly worded I’m still drinking my morning coffee.
The grip size of the Gen4 G19 fits a much wider array of people than the Gen3.
Unless you have really big hands, I would recommend no backstrap on the Gen4, but that’s a personal thing.
9mm Gen4 guns seem to shoot slightly more accurately and softer than the Gen3s.
The reversible mag release is a plus, and the button size is better on the Gen4.
If you do have an issue with ejection, the knowledge and parts exist to resolve your issue pretty easily.
My gen 3’s 30s and 26, and my g4-17 have zero btf and all feed even tula great. The 30s is a particular joy to shoot. The short frame fits my hand great. In the 45/10mm I wouldnt even consider a non sf or gen3. Just too fat, imo. I will likely get a gen 4 21 or 41 next.
in gen 3 the 9 or. 40 feel fine. Considering they can readily be found in the mid $400 range they are a great buy. Can easily get your money back if you dont like them or just need the money back.
I finally shot this one I found on arfcom. I have $430 in it. Even has night sights. Was flawless. Used some 33rd mags
Thanks for everyone’s answers so far. I like the feel of my wife’s G19. I help a Gen 4 and without the backstrap I get too much trigger finger on the trigger. I have heard some others say that the Gen 4s seem to be a little more accurate. I also like the larger mag release. It doesn’t matter what Gen or model all 9mm and 40 cal Glocks are $425 with the certificate. The downside is night sights are extra. Another bonus is the gun store has a lifetime warranty on all new and used firearms they sell.
I have two Gen 3’s (17 and 26) from the same manufacturing timeframe (Aug 2012) and they’ve been flawless. Consistent, strong ejection and I’ve never had a malfunction with either pistol.
I only have 500 rounds through a Gen 4 22 and about 1,600 through a 19 I borrowed from a friend at work and they were both great to shoot. I agree with the comments on the ergos of the Gen 4 and me having baby girl hands found the smaller grip profile much easier to shoot. The G22 also cycled reliably with an X300 mounted, which was a good surprise given their reputation with WMLs.
Go with the Gen 4 and if you start to develop issues, call Glock and they’ll square you away.
Summed up very well here. I will add my own personal opinion though. I love the Gen4 frames on the full size handguns better than on the Gen3’s. I prefer the Gen 3 frames on the compact and subcompact Glocks though. The hump just hits my hand funny. I prefer the less aggressive Gen 3 frames for those. I will say though, the larger mag release is a godsend for those of us that have smaller hands. I own two Gen 4’s currently, a 17, and a 19 and the 19 is my EDC.
Several gen4 G17, 19, and 26s under my purview that are late 2013 production (~12). They are all Austrian, and I believe are all ~W serials. No gun related malfunctions or issues to date. One of these is my 2014 shooter, started early Jan, with about 2k rounds through it now.
I’m seeing very few new gen3 purchases. What demand there is for them seems to be those buying the first-available.
That’s good to hear about the 2k rounds. The general consensus seems to be that they either don’t work right out of the box or they start doing it around the 1k mark.
Too many posts lack sufficient information to conclude much of anything, and folks over-extrapolate the information. See previous threads for further discussion of that. Just buy one and shoot it.
I prefer the Gen 4’s. I like the grip texture because it almost “sticks” to your hand. Also being able to reverse the magazine button was very helpful to me because I am left handed. Other than that either will be just fine.
I have been super unlucky with the new glocks and my problems were very real. Aside from weak ejection, btf, my gen 4 made in USA AA prefix g19 had 11 FTE in the first 400 rounds before I sent it back. I have also had numerous other problem guns that started having stovepiping issues after 1-3k. I really love the platform, just prefer using the older models now.
the btf issue to me is an underlying problem that points to something wrong with extraction as all of the guns I have that had btf problems eventually ended up stovepiping frequently. Luckily it does seem fixable if it is not too bad. I just had one pass 2k without issue after numerous problems thanks to the hred/apex extractor and the new ejector. (it was the only gun that the hred and apex worked together on which also shows some weird tolerance problems in the newer glocks imho)
I own a G26 and G17. The 19 just doesn’t fit my hand that great as my pinky seems to not have a spot, just kinda hangs in limbo between the grip and air. The G17 offers a full grip and I can comfortably tuck my pinky under the G26. I shoot both really well and have yet to have a problem with either. They are both Gen 3 guns. The only thing I do to mine are replace the sights and modify/stipple the grip.
