question about ccw

i usually carry a g26 as my ccw but with winter coming in the northwest i was wondering do anyone else carry a 9mm in winter. I ask this because with everybody wearing heavy coats and thick sweatshirts will the 9mm expand right? I was thinking of switching to my 45 for the season but like carrying the g26 more. If someone could help me out or point me in the right direction would be great. Thanks

I stick with my G26 through the winter.

I carry my battery of M&P 9mm’s throughout the year.

I go from 26 to a 17 or 19 Glk

When I lived in WA I CCW’d my G22 in winter. That said I also carried my G19 and a G26. I also kept it loaded with +P ammo.

i use 124gr +p gold dot as my carry ammo and i use the g19 mags so i get acouple of more rounds. I was just wanting to know if its enough to punch through winter clothing. I was always told that a 45 is the [b]only[b] caliber you should carry. Even some friends of mine give me shit for carring a 9mm. I like it and am pretty accurate with it and just wanted to know if other people carry and trust 9mm as their ccw.

FFS - I’ll give you a heavy coat if you’ll let me shoot at you while you are wearing it.

M_P

9mm is good. .45ACP is a much beloved round, but the kind of people that give you shit for not carrying one or tell you that .45 is the only viable caliber are simply full of it.

124gr +p Gold Dot is more than adequate. All the standard pistol calibers suck about equally and will work if you put the rounds where they need to go. If you are accurate and competent with the G26 carry the 9mm and worry about something else… like how God is going to smote you for not carrying His chosen caliber! :smiley:

During the sub zero temperatures that often go hand in hand with a southern AZ winter, I carry a 1911.

Originally I purchased my G26 as a “summer carry” gun but liked the little bugger so much I carry it year 'round. Of course we don’t get sub zero temps here in the Commonwealth of Virginia but I don’t feel underpowered with 127gr +p+ :wink:

The people who told you that and gave you shit are idiots.

That is what I keep saying but its the arguement that will never end. I don’t know why but alot of people think there is nothing else but .45 ACP. I mean don’t get me wrong I own a 1911 and love it to death but i prefer my g26 for carry.

In my experience and observation the 124gr +p Gold Dot, 124gr +p Ranger-T and 147gr HST work just fine through heavy clothing.

I can carry anything I want off duty, I carry my Glock 9mms even on my own time.

FYI, there is a reason the FBI heavy clothing and IWBA 4 layer denim tests exist.

It should end because there is actually scientific data out there about how bullets perform through heavy clothing. We have a terminal ballistics forum on M4Carbine.net where one of the world’s leading experts in the area of terminal ballistics has posted the results of a great deal of scientific testing and research.

Yet people continue to have these silly arguments.

If you buy one of the 9mm loads recommended for duty use you’ll have a round designed to penetrate through heavy clothing while still offering decent expansion.

You’re on a roll lately :smiley:

Back to topic… I would highly recommend reading this thread http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887. After that check out the rest of the ballistics section by DocGKR (Dr. Gary Roberts) and you’ll have all the information you need to make a well informed decision.

Thanks for the offer, but I think i gotta pass on it;)

Do your friends actually carry .45 autos or do they just talk about it? Many of the most strident .45 proponents end up carrying Keltec .32 or .380’s because they are more convenient. If a larger caliber gives you the warm and fuzzys by all means use it but I’ll stick with my M&P9 or Glock 19.

“I was just wanting to know if its enough to punch through winter clothing”

millerlite, you aren’t actually thinking that 9mm rounds might fail to penetrate winter clothing, are you?

Look at the basics physics behind your question. You are wondering if you would get better performance and penetration by increasing the frontal area and slowing the velocity of your projectile of choice? No, physics doesn’t work that way. The faster the bullet, the small the frontal area, the better the penetration. .45 is not going to get you anything more in winter that your 9mm can’t already do.