Thanks in advance, Has anyone had any dealings with CMMG inc. and what do you think of parts. I’m building a gun from several Mfg. and would like to use their 16’’ SST M10 Medcon upper.
Good parts, better than most. Outstanding customer service. Buy with confidence.
Great people, great products. A+ all around.
I have 3 complete uppers and have used 2 of thier barrels on personal rifle builds and many more for customers.
No complaints from me
i’ve got a 16" middy.
excellent. they got it to me pretty quick too considering it was the holiday season.
i have over 1000 rounds through mine. accurate, nice fit and finish, very reliable.
you really can’t beat the features for the price.
yeah, noveske and LMT are probably better, but you’re better off taking the 400 bucks or whatever that you’d save and actually running some rounds through the gun.
Their machine work looks real smooth, unlike many others.
I have a CMMG 14.5” mid length upper. I have put around 3,000 through it without any problems. I have been very satisfied with it.
One thing to note - The bolt carrier was not properly staked. I corrected with the pocket MOACKS. Here’s what mine looked like:
Picture from the post on staking: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6993
I hear that they may be doing their staking properly now.
You may want to do a search. Many people here have had good to bad experiences with both products and customer service from CMMG.
Also take a look at rob_s’ comparison chart for a more detailed information:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642&highlight=comparison+chart
S/F,
Jeff
Indeed. Dig deeper for better information.
General consensus is that CMMG is hit or miss in both parts quality department and customer service. I don’t know about you but I would not want that if I was buying complete weapon or major parts.
YMMV.
That is a Stag/CMT carrier.
I ordered a 16" LW middy upper last year. No problems, the gas key was properly staked, and the upper was delivered in 5-7 days. The upper has about 1000 rounds through it but has not really been run hard. I use it for matches and took it out hunting last year. Overall the upper was put together well and functioned as advertised. The upper has the cerro forge keyhole marking and the barrel is stamped “CMMG 5.56 MP 1x7” just in front of the barrel nut. I got quick replies from Jeff whenever I emailed them and would buy from them again.
A friend of mine was so impressed with my upper (I was the guinea pig) that he decided to order a barrel from them for a SPR build. This turned into a two month fiasco with emails not being answered and evasive answers on the phone. The order was eventually cancelled.
CMMG can put together a quality product and offers features and variations that other people don’t. Their customer service seems to be hit and miss. My experience was good. If you want something that isn’t “standard” then I think they are a good choice. Just call to make sure they have what you want in stock.
Caveat: A lot of people on the errornet lately have been insinuating that CMMG does not really do what they say they do as far as the barrel steel and MP testing their barrels and bolts and that they use DPMS parts. There is no way that I know of to prove or disprove this. I believe that CMMG is truthful about their products simply because they have to be aware of the consequences if they were proven to have misrepresented their products to so many for so long. If not I have a nice DPMS/CMMG rifle that works well for its intended purpose as a match gun.
There really are no consequences. If CMMG barrels have been misrepresented, they gain a poor reputation online and then what? They lose some internet sales and go back to selling CMMG/DPMS rifles locally or at gun shows. There is momentary “spike” in the bandwidth usage of M4C.net and the “other” sites from all the bitching and debating, and CMMG ends up in the “good enough” category with the likes of Stag, Bushmaster, DPMS, and RRA (which people buy all the time).
Olympic has the worst reputation I have ever seen online, however they are still cluttering the shelves of most gun stores i’ve been in, and they still stay in business year after year. They blatantly misrepresent their barrel materials (4140 CM offers the same benefits of chrome lining but with better accuracy) on their webpage, but people STILL buy them.
That being said I had some lackluster customer service with CMMG regarding a couple lightweight barrels last year, their replies to emails were almost like i was annoying them which i wasn’t expecting from a company that came so highly recommended. Instead I ordered some AR6520 barrels from SAW and called it a day.
They have said for years they did all thier own barrels and forging in house I would like to hear what the answer to that would be to day. I know they visit this sight and they know I know the truth. It would be intresting to see if you would trust them now. And this is just to set thing right CMMG makes a good gun. but to say you do things and not really do them I think would be bad for biz. I am sure one day they will come clean.
I guess I’m just an “end result” kind of guy. I don’t care who does their machine work, or where their barrels come from. They have been quality parts for me, accurate & reliable.
Granted, I only buy barrels from them, so I’m not qualified to comment on the rest of their stuff. Except that their CS rep. Linda has been just great to deal with.
So the statment (Their machine work looks good )now knowing that it is not theirs does not bother you,or do you feel like you have not been told the truth about thier barrels? And I am not tring to bash I am just stating the facts When I buy something I like being told the truth. Like I said I like thier stuff but I know where it comes from and that makes all the diff to me. You claim to know alot about CMMG but when I worked for them 5 years I don’t think I saw you one time at the shop. And the machinest that you claim they had was my son. Now it has been 1 year so I don’t know what happens over there any more I just know they where not completely truthful when I worked for them. That said I don’t think that every one tells the truth all the time. :o And yes they would have liked me to sign a gag order I only in good taste give info out.
You claim to know alot about CMMG but when I worked for them 5 years I don’t think I saw you one time at the shop.
This is great!
C4
You know where this is going to go.
Remember 911-
Ok, I’m asking. If you know what the deal is share it with the rest of us. I’m grown enough not to cry too hard over spilled milk, but if I need to eat crow for recommending some BS to others I’d like to know about it. Just lay it out in plain English where they get there parts from, what features they lied about, and if my CMMG match gun is just a DPMS match gun.
It won’t kill me, the gun I trust is a LM&T Defender 2000 anyway. But some others carry there products in harms way and I might be partly responsible for that…
ETA: If you don’t want to discuss this in open please IM with the details (And Grant if you have the time…)