Looking to upgrade my current kit, just need something that can handle both .223 and .45 ACP. Any help?
Otis tactical cleaning system
I agree. Not sure if you want something compact like that, or if you’re familiar with the Otis system, but they offer a rifle/pistol kit that includes brushes for .223 and pistol up to .40:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000U416EK?pc_redir=1402804972&robot_redir=1
Their cleaning patch system will work for .45, and you could buy a .45 brush separately (although I rarely use one).
I find some of their tools less than ideal because of how small they are to fit in the compact kit, but what the Army giveth for free, I try not to complain about.
Dave
What about a couple of bore snakes? They came out with the Viper version which has an extra set of brushes and its entirely on piece.
That Otis kit looks good, but you might want some good rods as well.
The Tipton carbon fiber rods are great. You’d also want to get a good bore guide as well.
There’s really no need for a bore guide. Be easy with it and pull the rod from the muzzle instead of pushing from the chamber. Problem solved. I could see having one just for peace of mind, but they really aren’t needed.
Bore snakes suck. They are fine for a quick wipe down of the bore, but they are horrible for any kind of real cleaning.
Bore guides may not be critical, but there’s certainly no downside to using one
They protect your bore and help make cleaning a little less messy. With my stainless steel barrel, I use one every time I clean.
In my opinion there is no such thing that I know of, or at least recommend. For rifles I use one piece cleaning rods and bore guides in any action that I can. Keeping in mind most of my rifles are precision rigs.
When it comes to pistols I don’t worry as much. Using only one segment from a multi-piece rod set will reach from breach to muzzle without issue. Also I don’t see a need to be as picky with pistols.
I use the otis kit and the glock cleaning rod, I see no use in a dedicated cleaning rod for a rifle except for knocking cases out.
Get a AR-15 chamber rod, chamber brush, and a .45 brush. Add a hardened, uncoated, one piece stainless steel cleaning rod long enough for your AR barrel. Dewey makes all this and they’re pretty much all you need.
The short rod will handle your pistol and the most important area of your AR to clean. You could scrub the inside of your upper with the right brush, too. The long rod is handy for the occasional patch through the barrel and for punching out stuck cases. With the right adapters and brushes you can clean almost any gun with this set.
this one from that looks pretty interesting. has anyone used one of these?
http://www.holsterops.com/rogers-single-caliber-cleaning-kits
Saw these at Rogers Shooting School, Bill Rogers actually demoed cleaning a couple guns one day after class. It was kind of funny, Rogers was seriously demoing and at ‘appropriate’ times Ronnie Dodd would chime in ‘but, wait, there’s more…’
It was interesting to hear Rogers talk about the steps involved in development of the bore cleaning solution. Anyways, I saw him rip through a couple of pretty dirty weapons with excellent results.
I was way over budget for the trip, so I didn’t buy one. Until now.
I really like the ideal of the squeegee instead of running patch after damn patch. The abrasive bore compound makes me a little nervous though. First I’ve heard of it.
You can get an Otis kit for multiple calibers for rifle and handguns. I have them for 5.56, 9 & 45. Same for 308, 9 &45. You can buy the BIG do-all kit for everything including shotguns too.
I’m going off what I remember from a couple years ago but IIRC Rogers said that when he started the development of the bore cleaner his first thought was to get with world class benchrest shooters to find their secrets for cleaning bores. He found out that they didn’t tend to share anything other than general details of their little secrets. Then he went to a chemical guy and explained the problem to him. The chemical guy asked how many passes did he want it to take for the bore to be clean. Rogers told him 6 or 8, the chemical guy told him he didn’t need that many and there you go. IIRC the chemical guy was well aware of the bore wear issue.