My little brother’s 21st birthday is coming up and he’s been looking for a handgun. I’m planning on helping fund his purchase and I’d like to make sure the gun he gets is actually a good one. I know a lot about rifles and AR’s, but very little about handguns.
How does the Beretta PX4 rate? I have done research on the Beretta 92FS and that is what I originally suggested that he get (based on its quality and track record). However, he REALLY likes the PX4. Based on the little research I’ve done, it shares many similarities with the 92FS and that would lead me to believe it’s a good to go gun.
That said, I’m open to any opinions or reviews that might offer some insight.
You might do well to check over at the Beretta forum…I’ve got a commerical M9, and I used to go over there alot. In the recent past reading posts over there, there were alot of complaints with the PX4…many of which delt with “trigger slap”. Beretta at the time was doing it’s level best to deny everything…How this was resolved I don’t know…I would do some research first, I’m sure for the price, you can do much better,M&P, Glock, possibly HK (depending on price)All are probably better choices IMO, Anyway, go over there and look around, I believe they have a PX4 forum, That’d be a good starting point…
A bit smaller and lighter than the 92, but with all the benefits and also a built in rail. As stated there I am very happy with mine so far, but it still has yet fully prove it’s durability.
Also, one of our smarter folks here recently stated that the PX4 is prone to issues, and one or two others agreed via first hand trouble. Not that it means everything, but something to consider.
Any particular reason why? I personally am not fond of any handgun without a manual safety. I know the Glocks don’t have them, and not many retailers carry the M&P with manual safety.
Being his first handgun, I’d prefer for him to become accustomed to safe handling and having a safety. Again, that’s purely my preference and I recognize it as my opinion. It’s just that if I’m going to contribute to a handgun, I’d like to ensure a responsible choice.
I would strongly encourage avoiding rotary-barreled handguns. Their track record is pretty bad. Beretta’s last rotary barreled handgun was awful. Just ask some of the LEO’s here who were stuck with them as issue guns.
The default answer is going to be something like a Glock or an M&P because of price range, ease of use, and the fact that they work. The M&P can even be had with a safety. Also worthy of consideration would be something like a Sig P229 or a P30.
Italy, specifically Rome and it’s architecture will have far outlasted anything we currently produce, despite the tower in Pisa. But of course it proves something to focus on one benign mistake regardless. This having absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with firearms on top of the overt insult.
One of the most baseless posts ever made here. Congratulations to both you and the OP.
It Sucks, breaks to often for me. This weapon is one that truly tried my patience. M&P9 or 9c or Glock 17, 19… hands down. The M&Ps come in every flavor you want, with or without a manual safety. Get one from G&R tactical with the Apex sear installed.
That is my duty weapon and I don’t like it. The decock lever is not very user friendly. It just doesn’t feel right in my hand. I have shot the M&P .40 and PX4 back to back. The M&P felt better and I had better shot groups with it. Also some of the instructors said they were having issues with the rotating barrel. The only reason we got them was because the factory is in Accokeek, MD. What better way to advertise your product then have the local PD use them. Fortunately we got smarter and went to the M&P .40.
Jokes aren’t your forte, are they? Or are you just that thin skinned? Did you read the first hand experience of the instructor regarding the PX4s (the whole point of the post) or were you unable to see through your tears of rage?
Alrighty then…let’s all cool down for a minute, Gents.
Todd has, I would say, a pretty good read on the PX4 since he was actually around at Beretta when they were cooking it up. I’d listen carefully to what he has to say.
Anyhow, as far as Todd being “around at Beretta” while the handgun was being “cooked up” JW, well perhaps we have found our explanation as to the issues being described.
If a manual safety is driving the train, spend the time and money and go with the M & P. Putting the engineering issues aside for a moment, why learn to run a pistol with two distinct trigger pulls if you do not have to ( i.e. issued agency pistol). While I am aware of non da/sa versions, I suspect those will be even tougher to find than an M&P with a safety.
I’m not sure I’d ever buy, or help a relative buy, a firearm that wasn’t absolutely up to accomplishing its primary task.
If this is a plinker and will literally never be considered /used in a SD situation (stored locked, unloaded), then I suppose anything fine.
If he intends to carry this … potentially protect loved ones with it … I just can’t see rolling the dice on an unknown variables of a, somewhat, criticized design.
Regarding the PX4. Ergonomically, I like it it shot pretty well, felt good in the hand. I’ve become somewhat disillusioned with DA/SA autos, though.